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  1. #111
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    Coletergeist's Avatar
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    Cin Aamon
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    Diabolos
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    Reaper Lv 95
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    100% they should ban his main account, but I am afraid it will do nothing but piss him off more. He's already shown he's a psychopath and most likely will continue to open free burner accounts to rinse and repeat the spam.

    Also an aside, I never realized this game has no chat filter. You would think that there would be some rudimentary autoban system based on extreme language (n- and f-).
    I thought it did? You have to flip the toggle in settings to not have filters. Still though...it's still very bad nonetheless.
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  2. #112
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    Antonio_Xul's Avatar
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    Edgar Xerxes
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    Zalera
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    Machinist Lv 95
    It makes me wonder if the forum troll moved on to in game trolling. This is some messed up crap.
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  3. #113
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    SerenityChiba's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Usagi Chiba
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Maria1693939 View Post
    That was a much needed laugh involved with this situation, thank you!
    Yeah I'm not too sure what food item they are talking about, but nonetheless, it made me giggle too xD
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  4. #114
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    MilkieTea's Avatar
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Maduin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    The fact that this is ramping up as such is insanity. I hope you guys can get this figured out, the GMs really need to do something about this.

    His paying account obviously has to have a paypal or card attached in some way, maybe instead of an IP ban (which can be skirted simply by resetting your router depending on what his ISP is) they can fully ban and restrict him in a more legal manner? By banning any associated use of his card or his payment details in general. That way, while he might be able to continuously make fresh accounts, there's no one on the inside who can constantly get him in to NN. There may be the occasional slip ups, like if he somehow managed to get someone who didn't know it was him to invite, but at the very least removing his payment options will SEVERELY limit him.

    That's just a suggestion, but by god this man must have nothing better to do. I'm just imagining the worst sort of person who can do this, and I can't even begin to wrap my mind around it.
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  5. #115
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    To be honest, and this is something that should be an absolute last resort, making it so free trials cannot access novice network(are they able to? I've never joined NN, and don't know anyone who has gone through free trial and joined it) might need to be implemented. It would suck since there is no other way for them to have the ability to access mentor help if needed otherwise. Unless they create some sort of "available mentors" type dialogue box that brings up 5-10 random mentors who are online when the person logs in(similar to the achievement recommendations box), but that goes away after you are no longer a sprout.
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  6. #116
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    To be honest, and this is something that should be an absolute last resort, making it so free trials cannot access novice network(are they able to? I've never joined NN, and don't know anyone who has gone through free trial and joined it) might need to be implemented. It would suck since there is no other way for them to have the ability to access mentor help if needed otherwise. Unless they create some sort of "available mentors" type dialogue box that brings up 5-10 random mentors who are online when the person logs in(similar to the achievement recommendations box), but that goes away after you are no longer a sprout.
    And locking them out of NN accomplishes what? They could still do the same thing outside of the Novice Network, doing that would only be bandaid at best.
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  7. #117
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    Corvus_V's Avatar
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    Corvus Valerius
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    Golem
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    As I said before in another thread, IP bans are almost never possible with the way IPs work... but something has to be done whether it be constant GM supervision of the channel or suspension of invites.

    That chat spam is horrendous and I am sorry that any of you have to deal with it.
    If they just keep a log or show us who is inviting who, we can report the person who is inviting them in the first place. I do on the other hand doubt that an IP ban would be completely impossible. People get IP banned from websites all the time, and public proxies are typically so overused by bots that they're also banned as well. If he wants to go through the extra effort of getting a literal new credit card, or paypal, and IP address just for the sake of spamming, its much easier to ban him again, and his mentor account (which he uses to add them) than it is to replace that. He'd definitely be bashing his thick skull against something of much higher density.
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    Last edited by Corvus_V; 12-23-2020 at 10:28 AM.

  8. #118
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    Rinia's Avatar
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    Rinia Strauss
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    The fact that this is ramping up as such is insanity. I hope you guys can get this figured out, the GMs really need to do something about this.

    His paying account obviously has to have a paypal or card attached in some way, maybe instead of an IP ban (which can be skirted simply by resetting your router depending on what his ISP is) they can fully ban and restrict him in a more legal manner? By banning any associated use of his card or his payment details in general. That way, while he might be able to continuously make fresh accounts, there's no one on the inside who can constantly get him in to NN. There may be the occasional slip ups, like if he somehow managed to get someone who didn't know it was him to invite, but at the very least removing his payment options will SEVERELY limit him.

    That's just a suggestion, but by god this man must have nothing better to do. I'm just imagining the worst sort of person who can do this, and I can't even begin to wrap my mind around it.
    Banning a payment method is in the same boat as banning an IP. It's so easy to get a new one that it would hardly do anything. The only real solution is if SE even deals in things like MAC or hardware banning, but considering they won't even implement anti-cheats due to Japanese law, I feel like these may end up falling into the "too invasive" category. (But I'm no Japanese lawyer or anything so who knows.)
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  9. #119
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    MilkieTea's Avatar
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Maduin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rinia View Post
    Banning a payment method is in the same boat as banning an IP. It's so easy to get a new one that it would hardly do anything. The only real solution is if SE even deals in things like MAC or hardware banning, but considering they won't even implement anti-cheats due to Japanese law, I feel like these may end up falling into the "too invasive" category. (But I'm no Japanese lawyer or anything so who knows.)
    Jesus christ this is awful. Genuinely sorry to anyone who's experiencing this, it seems like every available option is skirt-able.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  10. #120
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    Casanova_Valentine's Avatar
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    Lilu D'
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Simply code specific words to create flags. Populate enough flags over a certain period of time and it warrants X punishment up and to including perma bans. Rendering it impossible to spam the way he is. Will it stop the words from being used as a single word? Yes, but it will prevent spamming of it.
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    Apparently, I opened a portal to hell in Eorzea....Sargatanas, Shirogane W24 P36.

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