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  1. #601
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    Rymi64's Avatar
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    Ren Crowe
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sairys View Post
    I get that, what I mean is that given BLU is the same i'd expect it to be listed as a Melee DPS role, arguably if they used maiming gear they'd also get a selection of tank-like armour to use.
    But yeah, having limited jobs listed within the current roles doesn't make much sense anyway, seems more logical to have a separate "Limited" role under DoW and DoM instead.


    Heh, not including arcanist was a subtle example. But yeah whether you include arcanist likely comes down to views on 2.0 really? I don't consider it an addition because it was included at the relaunch, so the classes available at the new beginning point for the game are all the initial classes. Indicated by arcanist being an option at character creation. That then leaves NIN as the first job added since the relaunch.

    I guess also I think some of the arguments for melee seem more like issues with the current stuff? Like if PhyR and Casters aren't distinct enough roles should that be looked at, same if Melee doesn't have enough presence in raids.
    God if they did that for Limited BST i feel like it'd be insult to injury since it wouldn't help the current problem with maiming gear and we would have to get MORE maiming gear thats lower than max level XD. I agree they should get their own little category though makes sense to do it down the line when they have more than one.

    I count arcanist only because if 1.x didn't flop it would have been added eventually to it later down the line but it's either or when it comes to a person, i aint gonna argue it.

    See i feel like they were on the path to categorizing them as one thing in hw with how they did gauss and wanderer's but changed their mind in SB. The melee's tend to have a good spread when it comes to raids (going off the lastest raid tier) with ninja and drg being more used and mnk being the lowest (though reworked so ehhh). When it comes to ranged jobs (as a whole) you have varying speeds for them with high paced smn so slower paced dnc so i just thought it'd be nice getting another slower paced melee...Even though i mainly play the ranged dps. Though thats just me being selfish. Man i cant wait for February i need this info QuQ
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  2. #602
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    Sairys's Avatar
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    Senu'a Retkha
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    Ravana
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rymi64 View Post
    See i feel like they were on the path to categorizing them as one thing in hw with how they did gauss and wanderer's but changed their mind in SB. The melee's tend to have a good spread when it comes to raids (going off the lastest raid tier) with ninja and drg being more used and mnk being the lowest (though reworked so ehhh). When it comes to ranged jobs (as a whole) you have varying speeds for them with high paced smn so slower paced dnc so i just thought it'd be nice getting another slower paced melee...Even though i mainly play the ranged dps. Though thats just me being selfish. Man i cant wait for February i need this info QuQ
    Yeah, I'm kinda at a point (mentioned earlier) where I kinda think the categories should just be discipline (DoW/DoM) on one axis and role (Tank/DPS/Healer) on the other with no more relevance to the job than that. Any other aspects to the job should just be a "sub-role" tag because it's kinda already heading that way anyway. Like SMN could be more of a support caster, MCH could embrace the greedy nuker/bursty dps it is in its heart. RDM and BRD could be noted as "hybrid range", melee magic could just be added without it being a whole new dps sub-role, etc.
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  3. #603
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    Tabbs's Avatar
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    Magia Dragonnier
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by MPNZ View Post
    BLU getting to go to LV90 with removed restrictions would be really nice for magical DPS
    If Martyn sets up the Blue Mage guild proper in the 5.45 job quests, I could see it happening tbh. Current story has already shown Martyn has a few BLU trainees besides us. If the new jobs start at 70, then I'm sure Azuro the 4th and 5th could replace us at the Celestium so we can go on proper adventures as a Blue Mage

    Not to get my hopes up too high, but it is lining up pretty well.
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  4. #604
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    Vane Weaver
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 84
    So apparently this was posted on the official square twitter, advertising some upcoming pins for each job.



    Assuming the layout of the squares isn't just random or a misdirection, that suggests the next two jobs are a healer and a ranged physical DPS. I think at least musketeer/corsair/gunner/(Still hoping)gambler are a sure fire set for the ranged slot, and while the healer leans chemist/apothecary I think that's still more nebulous.
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  5. #605
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    Ren Crowe
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Veloran View Post
    So apparently this was posted on the official square twitter, advertising some upcoming pins for each job.



    Assuming the layout of the squares isn't just random or a misdirection, that suggests the next two jobs are a healer and a ranged physical DPS. I think at least musketeer/corsair/gunner/(Still hoping)gambler are a sure fire set for the ranged slot, and while the healer leans chemist/apothecary I think that's still more nebulous.
    When you go to the Japanese amazon page to purchase them the other two seem to be a LB pin nada Protect pin so i don't think it's a hint personally
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  6. #606
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    Senu'a Retkha
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    Ravana
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rymi64 View Post
    When you go to the Japanese amazon page to purchase them the other two seem to be a LB pin nada Protect pin so i don't think it's a hint personally
    Yeah seems like an example where context is pretty important.

    From what I can dig out, it looks like they're a gachapon thing you can get from the Square Enix cafe in Osaka, so the question marks are more to maintain an element of surprise at what you could end up with. And the amazon listings look like resellers.

    The tweet shows the pins in capsules and it seems like other similar tweets follow a pattern of the featured product being available now.
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  7. #607
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Yep, gachapon, nothing to see here.
    I do think Protect is a weird choice though. I get people mourn it's loss but still, that's too much of a meme.
    Also why did BLU get Glass Dance when it could have had Flying Sardine?
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  8. #608
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Veloran View Post
    So apparently this was posted on the official square twitter, advertising some upcoming pins for each job.



    Assuming the layout of the squares isn't just random or a misdirection, that suggests the next two jobs are a healer and a ranged physical DPS. I think at least musketeer/corsair/gunner/(Still hoping)gambler are a sure fire set for the ranged slot, and while the healer leans chemist/apothecary I think that's still more nebulous.
    Someone needs to scratch BLU off that button list, it's not even good as a limited job.
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  9. #609
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    Arkadya Dravena
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I'd bank on healer and caster dps, just to keep parity. It's those 2 and physical ranged that don't have 4 to a role yet, and they just did dancer so I doubt they'd go back to back. Chemist healer seems like a gimme at this point, fits the assumed theme of the expansion and has ff background. No idea what they will do for the caster, but I think whatever it is, it's going to be wholly made up for ff14. If I had to take a shot in the dark, necromancer.

    I also think they will announce beast master as the next limited job, not sure they will continue blue past 70.
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  10. #610
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    Elzen Man
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    Raiden
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Plot twist...

    BST is a limited job that can use any weapon in the game; aka monk-ish Ran'jit and his dragon.

    Another twist..

    BST is not announced Feb 5th...

    MUAHAHAHA!!!!!!
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