Please don't delay Savage Raid Releases

[ChocoFeru]

I think you have a wrong perception of casual if you're contrasting it to "pro" players. What pro players? Twitch streamers?

People who are good clearing hard content fast, or completing content that few people can do.

FFXIV content just needs time invested since all the combats are scripted, so even if you're bad at it you can end up clearing all of them.

On the other hand, if you're bad and the content is hard, it doesn't matter the time you invest; you'll never clear it, wich is not the case with FFXIV.

That's why it makes no sense to keep the actual formula and release everything on the same day; it doesn't add any difficulty, it just makes some people skip cutscenes in order to catch up their party mates.

I'll clear all story content, craft and pentameld everything the same day because I have the time, but other people doesn't have that time and will end up rushing stuff and watering down the new patch experience.

[linayar]

People who are good clearing hard content fast, or completing content that few people can do.

FFXIV content just needs time invested since all the combats are scripted, so even if you're bad at it you can end up clearing all of them.

On the other hand, if you're bad and the content is hard, it doesn't matter the time you invest; you'll never clear it, wich is not the case with FFXIV.

That's why it makes no sense to keep the actual formula and release everything on the same day; it doesn't add any difficulty, it just makes some people skip cutscenes in order to catch up their party mates.

I'll clear all story content, craft and pentameld everything the same day because I have the time, but other people doesn't have that time and will end up rushing stuff and watering down the new patch experience.

If it's casual content, then it doesn't matter. You can still be fast at clearing content without needing to rush getting into the content. The game doesn't reward you for getting into the content faster. So if you think it's casual content, then treat it as casual content.

[ChocoFeru]

If it's casual content, then it doesn't matter. You can still be fast at clearing content without needing to rush getting into the content. The game doesn't reward you for getting into the content faster. So if you think it's casual content, then treat it as casual content.

Still, it doesn't matter what a single person thinks. Savage content needs 8 persons, and it would help everyone if it's delayed 1 or 2 weeks. It doesn't affect the people who think FFXIV endgame is pro-content neither, so they can keep thinking FFXIV's endgame is for pro players.

[linayar]

Still, it doesn't matter what a single person thinks. Savage content needs 8 persons, and it would help everyone if it's delayed 1 or 2 weeks. It doesn't affect the people who think FFXIV endgame is pro-content neither, so they can keep thinking FFXIV's endgame is for pro players.

Needing 8 people doesn't mean you have to rush, so a delay would just mean a delay. If you can wait 1 or 2 weeks to do Savage, then you can wait for people to all be ready without needing to rush, which shouldn't take even a week.

[ChocoFeru]

Needing 8 people doesn't mean you have to rush, so a delay would just mean a delay. If you can wait 1 or 2 weeks to do Savage, then you can wait for people to all be ready without needing to rush, which shouldn't take even a week.

You're absolutely right, there's no need to rush Savage, so it doesn't matter if Savage is delayed 1 or 2 weeks.

[linayar]

You're absolutely right, there's no need to rush Savage, so it doesn't matter if Savage is delayed 1 or 2 weeks.

If it doesn't matter, and you agree there is no need to rush, then why do you want it delayed?

[ChocoFeru]

If it doesn't matter, and you agree there is no need to rush, then why do you want it delayed?

Because it doesn't matter what I think, but what is better for everybody else. I don't care if Savage is put on the first day; I'll be ready with everything crafted, story and everything the first day.
But there's people that won't make it, and there will be some inner conflicts on statics with people that skip cutscenes vs people that want to enjoy the story and doesn't have the time to be ready at day 1, so delaying Savage (like the first Savage patch) would help everyone.

It also would help competition with the world first racers. Imagine everyone starting the competition with the same gear at the same time when servers are up; it would be more challenging for everyone

[Wyakin]

Needing 8 people doesn't mean you have to rush, so a delay would just mean a delay. If you can wait 1 or 2 weeks to do Savage, then you can wait for people to all be ready without needing to rush, which shouldn't take even a week.

People take time off work to join in the raid. Being part of a raid team means you’re accountable for not wasting their time as much as not wasting your own. A delay is a positive thing like countless people have said, it allows people to make sure they’re using and actually enjoying the content the devs have spent time to make. That’s not to mention time allowed to sort out crafting, prep for raids etc etc. Arguing against a delay “cos you don’t like it” isn’t a valid argument at all

[linayar]

Because it doesn't matter what I think, but what is better for everybody else. I don't care if Savage is put on the first day; I'll be ready with everything crafted, story and everything the first day.
But there's people that won't make it, and there will be some inner conflicts on statics with people that skip cutscenes vs people that want to enjoy the story and doesn't have the time to be ready at day 1, so delaying Savage (like the first Savage patch) would help everyone.

It also would help competition with the world first racers. Imagine everyone starting the competition with the same gear at the same time when servers are up; it would be more challenging for everyone

Competition doesn't matter for a casual content and group conflict is the group's issue, not the game. If there are people who are ready day 1, there is no reason to make them wait because other people can't find a group that they can work a schedule with, and seeing as how it's casual content, they can take their time finding a group that will be accommodating to their interest.

People take time off work to join in the raid. Being part of a raid team means you’re accountable for not wasting their time as much as not wasting your own. A delay is a positive thing like countless people have said, it allows people to make sure they’re using and actually enjoying the content the devs have spent time to make. That’s not to mention time allowed to sort out crafting, prep for raids etc etc. Arguing against a delay “cos you don’t like it” isn’t a valid argument at all

Arguing for a minimum 1-week delay isn't valid just because people can't wait for people to enjoy the content.

If your entire group agrees that the raid should be the focus, then you only have to wait for people to not rush through the story mode, which you can do together or separately. Then you can go through Savage prog and people can do other content in their own time. Enjoying content is not wasting time.

[RyuDragnier]

People take time off work to join in the raid. Being part of a raid team means you’re accountable for not wasting their time as much as not wasting your own. A delay is a positive thing like countless people have said, it allows people to make sure they’re using and actually enjoying the content the devs have spent time to make. That’s not to mention time allowed to sort out crafting, prep for raids etc etc. Arguing against a delay “cos you don’t like it” isn’t a valid argument at all

I'm fully convinced they're a troll at this point. Don't acknowledge them anymore, don't talk to them anymore, put them on ignore.