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  1. #81
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    I expect this not to happen. As Hydaelyn would want to have all the shards resplit to prevent reviving Zodiark (after his 2nd defeat). This theory only works if Zodiark can never be summoned again, but we all know primals can always be resummoned...
    It's very likely Zodiark will be gone for good because all who will know of its existence will be gone or will refuse to ever speak of it to anybody else (us and the Scions). Plus at the end of 5.3, it's mentioned that "the final battle for the fate of this star" is approaching. Meaning that's it, we're not getting any more "fate of the world" scenarios after this, so Zodiark is permanently going to be dealt with, it's not going to come back after this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It's very likely Zodiark will be gone for good because all who will know of its existence will be gone or will refuse to ever speak of it to anybody else (us and the Scions). Plus at the end of 5.3, it's mentioned that "the final battle for the fate of this star" is approaching. Meaning that's it, we're not getting any more "fate of the world" scenarios after this, so Zodiark is permanently going to be dealt with, it's not going to come back after this.
    We can hope, but there is no evidence that all who know of his existence will be gone after the final battle of 6.0. All the narrative has promised is the final battle for the fate of the star, not who continues on afterward.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    I expect this not to happen. As Hydaelyn would want to have all the shards resplit to prevent reviving Zodiark (after his 2nd defeat). This theory only works if Zodiark can never be summoned again, but we all know primals can always be resummoned...
    Normal primals can always be re-summoned.

    Zodiark was made by ancient masters of creation magic sacrificing half their population though, I doubt sundered mortals are capable of recreating him in his all-powerful 'rewrite the laws of reality' form if he's destroyed.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Normal primals can always be re-summoned.

    Zodiark was made by ancient masters of creation magic sacrificing half their population though, I doubt sundered mortals are capable of recreating him in his all-powerful 'rewrite the laws of reality' form if he's destroyed.
    Right, but the mortals aren't all perfectly sundered anymore. Therefore, unless Hydaelyn forces a second sundering, mortals are capable of recreating him.

    The only "Zodiark is perfectly gone" scenario is all Ascians are destroyed, their history lost, and the rejoined worlds are sundered again. Isn't this kind of a tall order?
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    Right, but the mortals aren't all perfectly sundered anymore. Therefore, unless Hydaelyn forces a second sundering, mortals are capable of recreating him.

    The only "Zodiark is perfectly gone" scenario is all Ascians are destroyed, their history lost, and the rejoined worlds are sundered again. Isn't this kind of a tall order?
    Not only is it a tall order, it's one the protagonists (WoL+Scions) seem to be against. Promising to remember Amaurot won't amount to anything if they take the knowledge of its history to their graves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    Right, but the mortals aren't all perfectly sundered anymore. Therefore, unless Hydaelyn forces a second sundering, mortals are capable of recreating him.

    The only "Zodiark is perfectly gone" scenario is all Ascians are destroyed, their history lost, and the rejoined worlds are sundered again. Isn't this kind of a tall order?
    I think you mean, unsundered. Cause uhh, to sunder something is to split it. I don't think mortals as they are now could recreate Zodiark. They could summon powerful, lesser versions of him, certainly, but the elder days Zodiark? Nah.
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    So apparently Void quests in Japanese

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erendis View Post
    So apparently Void quests in Japanese

    "Void Revival Plan"
    is one of the most aggressively Japanese phrases I've heard in some time.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erendis View Post
    So apparently Void quests in Japanese

    So the speculation is true then?
    We're going to bring back the 13th using Eden?
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    I doubt it's eden related, you don't have to even touch E1 to unlock them
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