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Thread: Pronouns?

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    The "male" viera thing again? Like it or not, male viera aren't included in the game. You get to play female viera, not male viera, female. Comic prop mustache on a female viera doesn't make it a male viera. This thread is asking for gender neutral pronouns. People playing as supposed "male" vieras would want to be referred to as he/him. I also don't think the players who are playing "male" viera are roleplaying as trans characters either. Completely irrelevant to this conversation.
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    No. Nor should there be. If you view yourself as male and want to be called "he" then pick a male character. Same with female. Why would anyone choose the opposite gender of what they want to be called? Idk, it sounds crazy to me.

    The day Square Enix pulls some woke nonsense on us, before fixing housing or bots or any number of actual problems plaguing this game, is the day I cancel my subscription and call it quits for good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KayRadley View Post
    Why the hell not? I like magic and faeries. The real world would be richer for their inclusion!
    A little bit off topic but this topic is off topic since page 2 so...

    We have magic in our world, but we call it technology.
    * We have flying mounts but we call them air planes or helicopters
    * We have heal potion but we call them drugs
    * We have buffs but we call them vitamin or illegal drugs
    * We have link perl but we call them phones
    * We have Black Mage's Fire IV but we call them explosive rounds or grenade
    * We have Limit breaks but we call them air strikes
    * and the list goes on and on

    Ok we don't have aetheryte, that would be cool.

    It's not because we understand them and are used to them that it's not impressive mag.. technology

    Stay amazed by the world my friend!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmoonrise View Post
    It's not because we understand them and are used to them that it's not impressive mag.. technology

    Stay amazed by the world my friend!
    As the saying goes: Any sufficiently explained magic is indistinguishable from technology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    No. Nor should there be. If you view yourself as male and want to be called "he" then pick a male character. Same with female. Why would anyone choose the opposite gender of what they want to be called? Idk, it sounds crazy to me.

    The day Square Enix pulls some woke nonsense on us, before fixing housing or bots or any number of actual problems plaguing this game, is the day I cancel my subscription and call it quits for good.
    You shall not be missed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KayRadley View Post
    You shall not be missed.
    Little Harsh for someone with a different opinion.
    We aren't all gonna agree on every topic, doesn't make any player any less valuable or important then another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Little Harsh for someone with a different opinion.
    We aren't all gonna agree on every topic, doesn't make any player any less valuable or important then another.
    No, that's exactly how it is. You either think like certain people, or you are pretty much subhuman. You require sensitivity training, otherwise you are worthless as a member of society. You shall have no platform. It's not diversity of thought, but rather, "DIVERSITY"

    "No! It's not diversity of thought! You just want to be given a platform to spout your hateful comments! BAN! REPORT!"

    Yeah, I'm incredibly annoyed in general right now. Don't be mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    No, that's exactly how it is. You either think like certain people, or you are pretty much subhuman. You require sensitivity training, otherwise you are worthless as a member of society. You shall have no platform. It's not diversity of thought, but rather, "DIVERSITY"

    "No! It's not diversity of thought! You just want to be given a platform to spout your hateful comments! BAN! REPORT!"

    Yeah, I'm incredibly annoyed in general right now. Don't be mean.
    The great PC culture at work

    Anyway, I've seen this topic pop and I don't really know what to say. It feels like this gender identity and spectrum is accepted but never challenged, while its relevance as a theory can be vastly questioned.
    So yeah, I'm against having specific pronouns, and not to be rude, but I think most devs from SEJ would laugh at the idea - not that I speak in their name obviously, but Japanese culture is very different and would be considered conservative by the leftist spectrum of north americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    No, that's exactly how it is. You either think like certain people, or you are pretty much subhuman. You require sensitivity training, otherwise you are worthless as a member of society. You shall have no platform. It's not diversity of thought, but rather, "DIVERSITY"

    "No! It's not diversity of thought! You just want to be given a platform to spout your hateful comments! BAN! REPORT!"

    Yeah, I'm incredibly annoyed in general right now. Don't be mean.
    You are allowed to have diversity of thought, but in the same vein, others are allowed to not feel sympathy for someone threatening to unsub over something silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KayRadley View Post
    You shall not be missed.
    Cool story bro.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Little Harsh for someone with a different opinion.
    We aren't all gonna agree on every topic, doesn't make any player any less valuable or important then another.
    Its not worth pointing that out to people like that. They have an agenda and everything that doesn't fall in line with that agenda is to be cancelled. I'm actually pretty tolerant too, and if this game was perfect then I wouldn't care if they spent a little of our sub fees to cater to that community of people. I just don't want to see all this woke nonsense taking away from fixing the very real problems of this game.
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    "I am Velius, the devil" - Velius, FFT

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