Dear Forum Troll, You Win

[Absurdity]

Getting the wrong advice isn't great, but are you seriously saying it's a negative for a board about a video game - something you play to have fun - might be populated by people who enjoy the game as it is right now instead of constantly complaining and/or lobbying to change it?

This forum's balance of fans and complaints has always seemed like the anomaly to me. Most people I know from FCs and Discords are just enjoying the game.

No I'm saying that it's bad if you literally ignore issues and pretend everything is a perfect dream world, even if it's to your own detriment. Or worse, you try to justify jank design because your favorite game can't do no wrong.

[Iscah]

No I'm saying that it's bad if you literally ignore issues and pretend everything is a perfect dream world, even if it's to your own detriment. Or worse, you try to justify jank design because your favorite game can't do no wrong.

What actually makes it bad to "ignore" issues that don't bother you or detract from your personal enjoyment of the game? If you like it as it is, then there isn't anything to ignore in the first place. It's just a different person's opinion on the game.

In most fandoms I've been in, it's those people who do like the game as it is, with whatever flaws it has, that stick around and form the community. It's not seen as a failing to actually like something as it is just because it could somehow be improved.

[reivaxe]

What actually makes it bad to "ignore" issues that don't bother you or detract from your personal enjoyment of the game? If you like it as it is, then there isn't anything to ignore in the first place. It's just a different person's opinion on the game.
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There's a theme of lacking understanding that not everyone "has" to dislike the thing you dislike or to the level you dislike it.
For example, the Mogstation.
People make it seem like you're a boot licking sheep for not hating the mogstation. Same for Eureka or non-combat content in general given that that's been a big source of new content this expac.

TBH I think a number of people only post here so that they can whine about the things they dislike, where as sites like reddit or FB groups or Discords or blah blah blaaahs are populated by mostly people who like the game and just want to talk about it and share stuff.

(Also another good thing about other sites is that you don't have to put up with troll stuff cause you can call out people for "isms" or troll stuff without getting banned. Good FB groups are willing to flat out ban people for non-sense trolling, helps keep a good community around)

[Naenaewa]

TBH I think a number of people only post here so that they can whine about the things they dislike, where as sites like reddit or FB groups or Discords or blah blah blaaahs are populated by mostly people who like the game and just want to talk about it and share stuff.

(Also another good thing about other sites is that you don't have to put up with troll stuff cause you can call out people for "isms" or troll stuff without getting banned. Good FB groups are willing to flat out ban people for non-sense trolling, helps keep a good community around)

I agree with you, but to be fair: SE isn’t looking at your Discord or FB posts (probably in the case of the latter). If you want a chance to get heard, you’d come here.

[reivaxe]

I agree with you, but to be fair: SE isn’t looking at your Discord or FB posts (probably in the case of the latter). If you want a chance to get heard, you’d come here.

More than once they've commented about reddit's reaction to things. I think even they know that large, open forums modded by the community are worth looking at. So no, they may not openly be in someone's discord or FB group, but we know they watch FF14 streamers, Reddit and such.