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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    People would be able to clear those raids even without the roulette, it'd just take even longer or it would mean organizing outside of DF as was done for alliance raids prior to the implementation of the roulette.

    You're just playing a broken record, acting like if any queue eventually pops the associated roulettes are perfectly fine.

    Queue for CT. You'll be in in 5.

    Queue for Orbonne. Go watch a few episodes of a show while you wait.

    The disparity would not be that large if the roulette functioned as intended because the devs definitely didn't intend for artificially increased wait times for some of the content in the same roulette - if they did they also wouldn't have locked current expansion relic weapons behind completion of the content with the longest wait time.
    That's a reach to say about the relic tie in when the story and author connects the two contents.

    And if the disparity is not intended, then they should fix it, but they didn't, even when the "issue" has been long known. It most likely mean the issue is not affecting the performance of the roulette.

    They even made CT required for MSQ, which would've made the situation worse, but it seems fine on their end. So long queues could simply be a result of a number of things and not necessarily people abusing the system, and it's still within whatever acceptable rate they have for getting people to clear the raids if they want.
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    I honestly think they need to reduce the ilvl for crystal tower raids. Labyrinth should be capped at i90 or i100; tower should be capped at i110; and world of darkness should be dropped to i120. This would fix all of the problems with these raids. If people had to really do the mechanics properly as they were intended people would easily choose the higher tier raids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    The fact of the matter is that we do have a free pass. And what's wrong with EXPLOITING the game? The reason for coming together in a raid is mutual benefit. What's wrong making full use of that benefit?

    ex·ploit

    make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource).
    That is certainly one definition of exploit. Nice to know you can Google things... The other (and more relevant) definition of exploit:

    designed to take advantage of a flaw in a computer system, typically for malicious purposes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabian View Post
    I honestly think they need to reduce the ilvl for crystal tower raids. Labyrinth should be capped at i90 or i100; tower should be capped at i110; and world of darkness should be dropped to i120. This would fix all of the problems with these raids. If people had to really do the mechanics properly as they were intended people would easily choose the higher tier raids.
    CT queues are set to i 70, I know for a fact because i have naked queued in the past. But just once and never ever again,
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    CT queues are set to i 70, I know for a fact because i have naked queued in the past. But just once and never ever again,
    I'm referring to the maximum ilvl. So if you get LoA that everyone should be synced to i90 which is still WAY overkill. Perhaps would be better to sync everyone down to i70 for LoA; i90 for ST; and i110 for WoD. Would make these raids enjoyable again instead of a snoozefest. I die a little inside anytime I get one of the CT raids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    That's a reach to say about the relic tie in when the story and author connects the two contents.

    And if the disparity is not intended, then they should fix it, but they didn't, even when the "issue" has been long known. It most likely mean the issue is not affecting the performance of the roulette.

    They even made CT required for MSQ, which would've made the situation worse, but it seems fine on their end. So long queues could simply be a result of a number of things and not necessarily people abusing the system, and it's still within whatever acceptable rate they have for getting people to clear the raids if they want.
    If you believe the SE is remotely that responsive then there is no point conversing with you because that's an entirely unrealistic perspective to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabian View Post
    I'm referring to the maximum ilvl. So if you get LoA that everyone should be synced to i90 which is still WAY overkill. Perhaps would be better to sync everyone down to i70 for LoA; i90 for ST; and i110 for WoD. Would make these raids enjoyable again instead of a snoozefest. I die a little inside anytime I get one of the CT raids.
    ill stick click on the better gear option after queing in, that one time it may have happened. The point is if they treated all instances as loced in, people would not be able to spontaneously equip their new better gear. We might disagree fundamentally, but we both have no answer to this phenomenon. Like at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    ill stick click on the better gear option after queing in, that one time it may have happened. The point is if they treated all instances as loced in, people would not be able to spontaneously equip their new better gear. We might disagree fundamentally, but we both have no answer to this phenomenon. Like at all.
    Other than to lock people out of equipping different gear than the stuff they queued in, which is still 100% a viable option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabian View Post
    I'm referring to the maximum ilvl. So if you get LoA that everyone should be synced to i90 which is still WAY overkill. Perhaps would be better to sync everyone down to i70 for LoA; i90 for ST; and i110 for WoD. Would make these raids enjoyable again instead of a snoozefest. I die a little inside anytime I get one of the CT raids.
    Would be interesting to force min ilevel runs, but it might still cause issues as people go to Void Ark next for their easy wins. And if the devs decide to enforce it across the board, then we're back to square one as CTwould still be the easiest of the raids and Orbornne would be need more echo buffs just to make sure people make it to Cid
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    Yes please. It's silly this hasn't been fixed after so long. The old joke of "labyrinth roulette" wore thin two years ago when this first started being a thing.

    I don't have any problem with getting it all the time when there's a first timer needing it, but there's actually other things in the roulette and people cheesing it to get the same thing constantly makes it take far longer for other dungeons higher up in the list (like Rabanastre) to actually pop if you queue them since groups keep getting forced down to 50.

    Just remove the ilvl restrictions at this point the way levelling doesn't have them and the problem goes away. It's not a hard fix. Or hell, just lower the sync level on Crystal Tower by 30 ilvls so it's not a total joke.
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