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  1. #11
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    PLEASE Square Enix. READ this and consider these points. Bring our forum back!

    It is terrible that many good/great posters have been run off to Reddit or Discord, whether due to being banned by the overmoderation here over the years or the allowance of trolls and bullies now because of lack of moderation. Reddit and Discord is a free-for-all that is just not suitable for everyone. Personally I do not want to wade through an ocean of cursing and insults just to talk about or find information on the game. However there are times that I cannot find even basic answers here at times. It is sad that the “official” forum has become a shell of what it once was. I do not understand what Square Enix is thinking or doing when it comes to the forum.

    They need to drop bans from years ago if the players are still active. Too many were banned unfairly and if they could come back here, a new life could be brought to this place. Many of those players were very active and participated in lots of positive informational conversations. SE also needs a new moderation team whose first language is English because there is a lot that is posted that is idioms, colloquialisms, localized slang and such. Trying to figure out the meaning of written communication without seeing facial expressions is hard enough, but when you try to figure this out in a different language it can cause some big problems and major mistakes. I am not trying to say anything bad about non-native speakers. I just think it makes a difference when what you are interpreting can make the difference between whether someone is banned permanently or not. Then again, maybe a non-native speaker would be more careful.


    It is difficult. I was the moderator for one of the official NFL (National Football League) teams for several years. It was a hard job because this team was unique in that it wanted a very ‘clean’ forum - which meant no cursing, no insulting, etc. - so you can imagine game days or when other team trolls visited. But at least this was a free forum. You did not pay. However, if you got banned from that forum, you were quite limited as to where you could discuss your team. Over time, things changed for that team in its administration and that trickled down to all parts of the organization, including their forum. They decided to ease the restrictions and become like every other teams’ forum out there...a cesspool of cursing, trolling, bullying, etc. I was not going to be part of that and did not wish to be with the new administration anyway. But even before I left, the forum was going to hades in a hand basket. People kept emailing me asking for the “old ways”, but I was not the boss. Not much I could say or do. But I hated what happened to that beloved forum which was set apart for being different and better.

    That is how I feel about this forum now. I have always been more of a lurker and reader than a big poster. I got burnt out after all those years on the football forum, hahaha. But seriously, after 7+ years this has still been my home. I don’t do Reddit unless I just have to find info (like the fashion report or something) and I just do not get Discord. *shrug* I just wish this forum could go back to the way it used to be. Please SE. PLEASE!

    Thanks for reading and for your consideration.
    ˚₊★‧ℒℴѵℯ❣Hina‧☆₊˚
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    FC -NEKOMIMIS FTW! ~ Behemoth ~ Shirogane Ward 22, Plot 7 *Castle Nekomimi*
    Looking to simply to have fun & enjoy the game, play with no pressure? Then come join us!
    We have been here since the ARR beta and we are here to stay. All ear types are welcome. :3
    If you want a secure home, with family-friendly written chat in game, along with our own Discord...
    come BE A NEKO! ~nya =^.^=

  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Yeah - I spend my money on extra retainers and FFXIV merchandise, not extra forum accounts.
    Same here!
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    FC -NEKOMIMIS FTW! ~ Behemoth ~ Shirogane Ward 22, Plot 7 *Castle Nekomimi*
    Looking to simply to have fun & enjoy the game, play with no pressure? Then come join us!
    We have been here since the ARR beta and we are here to stay. All ear types are welcome. :3
    If you want a secure home, with family-friendly written chat in game, along with our own Discord...
    come BE A NEKO! ~nya =^.^=

  3. #13
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    With over 10k posts combined can we summon the community leaders XD? like some sort of Captain Planet move? Wonder twins unite... Love Earth . .

    Spirit Bomb? Goku?

    At least... If we strip down into our spangled subligars do we get Reinheart to grace us? They used to exist here on the other side of the forums with us.

    Is there naught we can do to talk to, or at least hear from? In general I understand the reticence to be like "yeah we got your feedback we'll look into it" as it makes some people act as if it was promised (and there is the whole extra barrier of language from headquarters to us).. but the silence has always been strong element and now given that we're at the whims of one person (and or a few copy cats) the silence . . . well it doesn't help lol.


    Quote Originally Posted by Seddrinth View Post
    I regret taking the bait and responding to this thread. Now titan man is playing me. What you just said is exactly what I expect titan man to say when we find out another one of your forum alts. I actually come to these forums for important ff14 discussions and not to get baited into these troll threads. So yeah, you got me good this time.
    This is not a troll thread. Also you can easily see that Theo is not the same as the other accounts in how they post and what they find humor in. Theo actively avoids politics and any humorous thread that has been created was at the expense of no one. Our gremlin is certainly not Theo.
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    I think Reinhart and his subligars of glory got lost in translation some where Shogun.
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    Would definitely like a little more engagement or at least active moderation. It's very obvious to the regulars what is going on and while we're doing our best to report and ignore, it really isn't our responsibility to do so. There are people who have been engaged to manage the community and make it welcoming. Please help us.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Would definitely like a little more engagement or at least active moderation. It's very obvious to the regulars what is going on and while we're doing our best to report and ignore, it really isn't our responsibility to do so. There are people who have been engaged to manage the community and make it welcoming. Please help us.
    The bigger issue is the fact that it seems reporting is doing little. I'm reporting literally every single thread their various accounts start, and a good deal of their commentary elsewhere (and from what I see, a fair few are doing this too), but almost nothing is being done - or at least not at a visibly prompt rate to clean up the absolute mess that is the forums at this point.

    Between reports feeling as though they fall on deaf ears, and the utter lack of interaction from community representatives outside of introductions and the rare post in a large thread gaining traction, it's very easy to feel the NA forums have been proverbially thrown to the wolves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Karowolus View Post
    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    The bigger issue is the fact that it seems reporting is doing little. I'm reporting literally every single thread their various accounts start, and a good deal of their commentary elsewhere (and from what I see, a fair few are doing this too), but almost nothing is being done - or at least not at a visibly prompt rate to clean up the absolute mess that is the forums at this point.

    Between reports feeling as though they fall on deaf ears, and the utter lack of interaction from community representatives outside of introductions and the rare post in a large thread gaining traction, it's very easy to feel the NA forums have been proverbially thrown to the wolves.
    The worst part is threads that call them out directly are quickly wiped, while the 3 year old necro threads with replies about funding FF16 are left stinking up the place with no response. So we know SOMEONE is there, but bizarrely nothing is being done about the problematic posts.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    I can't even recall the names of any of the community representatives at this point. Last time I did some digging to find one out of curiosity, it turned out that particular person had moved to work at a complete different company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    The bigger issue is the fact that it seems reporting is doing little. I'm reporting literally every single thread their various accounts start, and a good deal of their commentary elsewhere (and from what I see, a fair few are doing this too), but almost nothing is being done - or at least not at a visibly prompt rate to clean up the absolute mess that is the forums at this point.

    Between reports feeling as though they fall on deaf ears, and the utter lack of interaction from community representatives outside of introductions and the rare post in a large thread gaining traction, it's very easy to feel the NA forums have been proverbially thrown to the wolves.
    Have also been reporting once in a while, and at this point it's almost like the troll is a mod/admin themself. What with legitimate threads getting closed and/or deleted while a certain Necromancer and alts run around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    Have also been reporting once in a while, and at this point it's almost like the troll is a mod/admin themself. What with legitimate threads getting closed and/or deleted while a certain Necromancer and alts run around.
    I suppose stranger things have happened than sabotage from within a company...

    Speaking of which, the male viera thread was outright deleted for a while which happened right around the same time all this recent spam resurfaced with a vengeance.
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