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    Quote Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd View Post
    If you are queing for Labyrinth, that's fine. If you are purposely lowering your ilvl so the roulette puts you there then that is exploiting. Thankfully people have to do all three of those raids for MSQ now but the other raids are side quests and do not have to be unlocked fully or at all.

    People who are actually queing for the lower raids aren't the problem. People who are exploiting so they don't have to put forth effort are. There's glams and items and enjoyment to have in each raid tier and those people are taking that possibility away (however small it is---one under level 60 person in 24 will net you a CT raid but one person doing the exploit will also do that even if everyone is 70+).

    This is an extremely old gripe and so far the devs have done nothing to stop it. I posted a solution in 3 parts: separate the CT raids into a separate roulette called Alliance MSQ, require full unlock of each raid tier a player decides to start before the roulette becomes available, based on player level (so all CT if under lvl 60, all Void Raids if under lvl 70, etc--assuming the player chose to unlock those) and make the minimum ilvl requirement for the roulette to be based on the first raid tier that matches the players actual level. So if you're level 80, you have to que with the ilvl requirements for Copied Factory at minimum.

    The easiest thing would to simply make every players level scale like other games do, like in Bozja but we'll see I guess.
    Enforcing any asinine ilvl locks or upscaling won't work when people simply don't have to unlock the higher level raids because they aren't mandatory.

    Want to solve any "issues" with roulette fixing? Make all duties and ilvl of the highest available duty mandatory.

    Oh look, you solved a gripe of a couple of people by opening a huge can of worms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Want to solve any "issues" with roulette fixing? Make all duties and ilvl of the highest available duty mandatory.
    Honestly, I would like this for all roulettes just on principle, not because of having any issue myself. But like you said, it won't solve this particular "issue" as people are not required to unlock all raids or they'll just do them on a low level job and with CT being the only required raid series for MSQ. They're not going to make every duty mandatory as they like the fact it's optional.

    That said, like I said, I don't think it's a big enough issue in the first place as I get all the raids anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    There is my previous suggestion where they toss the most recent ARs into its own roulette. However, if this idea was brought up by someone in the dev team, I am guessing it was/would be shut down because there just aren't enough ARs released in a given expansion.
    Not only that, it'll suffer from the same issue 50/60/70 and 80 roulettes have. They're just not worth it, at least for me. There is only so much reward they'd want to give per day and they already have too many roulettes as it is to split the rewards over.

    In fact, I'd rather they merge all the dungeon roulettes into one and increase the rewards for that (add all the tomestone and GC seal rewards), especially since we're getting one dungeon per patch now.
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