FFXIV is too simplistic and bland

[Iscah]

I noticed this one when I first started XIV 2.0. I remember asking in my FC chat if mobs ever link because I was pulling Ixali that were mid conversation with another Ixali and the one I didn't pull didn't seem to give a **** that I was murdering his buddy in front of him, I found it jarring after playing WoW for years where if you pulled something like that they would all swarm you. xD

Linked mobs in the overworld seem to be solely based on your strength relative to the thing you're attacking. Fight something of similar level to your own and it's always a single fight. Attack something of a lower level and it will also draw the next closest enemy to the one you attacked.

I imagine it's something like that attacking something draws enmity, and a sufficiently strong attack creates more than 100% enmity and that "overflows" to the next nearest enemy. Do it in a really low-level area and you'll draw an entire pack.

Having your chocobo summoned also seems to affect whether you get this overflow effect.

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Linked mobs in the overworld seem to be solely based on your strength relative to the thing you're attacking. Fight something of similar level to your own and it's always a single fight. Attack something of a lower level and it will also draw the next closest enemy to the one you attacked.

I imagine it's something like that attacking something draws enmity, and a sufficiently strong attack creates more than 100% enmity and that "overflows" to the next nearest enemy. Do it in a really low-level area and you'll draw an entire pack.

Having your chocobo summoned also seems to affect whether you get this overflow effect.

You can literally see mobs that are linked together with a faint golden line that blinks slowly.

[Iscah]

You can literally see mobs that are linked together with a faint golden line that blinks slowly.

Yes you can, and they only get that tethered line in the overworld if you're high-levelled enough that attacking one will draw the other. You don't see it for enemies that are of similar level to your character.

It's also not a fixed link between one specific enemy and another, the way it works in dungeons. Instead it goes to the nearest enemy, and it's possible for that link to change to a different target as they wander about and get closer or further away.

Otherwise, as noted above, you can shoot an enemy who is talking to another and his friend will just continue the now-one-sided conversation. If tethers were set permanently, that would be an obvious pair where attacking one should prompt both to attack you, but it doesn't work that way.

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Yes you can, and they only get that tethered line in the overworld if you're high-levelled enough that attacking one will draw the other. You don't see it for enemies that are of similar level to your character.

It's also not a fixed link between one specific enemy and another, the way it works in dungeons. Instead it goes to the nearest enemy, and it's possible for that link to change to a different target as they wander about and get closer or further away.

Otherwise, as noted above, you can shoot an enemy who is talking to another and his friend will just continue the now-one-sided conversation. If tethers were set permanently, that would be an obvious pair where attacking one should prompt both to attack you, but it doesn't work that way.

Weird ive always been able to see them. Didnt really think it was attatched to level

[Daniolaut]

Haha no.

You're kidding me right?

You're claiming to be a musician of any kind, and you're trying to say pop music has depth and complexity.

Any vocalist who is worth their weight in their respective genre has to be trained and experienced. There are cases of raw talent but even then, the more successful artists practice, and have aimed to improve.

Some of the greatest and richest compositions are the furthest from pop music.

Rap and todays pop music are vastly popular and are the most base and senseless drivel. You absolutely cant be trying to tell me singing about the back side of a female with synthetic beats and repetitive tunes, which are comprised of the most popular songs today are complex and rich.

These types of songs and compositions, they entertain the basic senses of the human needs. Food, reproduction, and other similar senses. People with advanced and complex minds are not easily invigorated by such simple and basic concepts. Which is the very foundation of what I speak. Angry Birds was extremely popular because it was simple and easy. Games that entertain more complex concepts and require better development, are much more successful in catering to a more developed mind. Hence the comparison of RPG's to platform games.

This is when I don't care if you have 12 million likes and I have 0, there is absolutely no way you will ever convince me that what you're saying as any validity.

As for RPG's Square-Enix themselves said FFXIV was a Final Fantasy first, and a MMO second. But it fails to compare in depth and originality to the entire series including the very first Final Fantasy. It struggles to compete with the very first entry in the series, which released more than 20 years ago.

Gil is worthless, tomes are worthless, 90% or more of all gear is worthless, materia is either melded or not. They literally removed the chances of someone melding the incorrect materia. This means it takes no thought as to what materia to meld, any materia is going to be a bonus, you cant mess it up.

Everything is aesthetics, mounts, minions, glamour, housing. Wanting things to have purpose and be expanded upon is whats being asked. Choices to have weight, and purpose.

It is very simple and very cookie cutter and very very straight forward.

Most all Final Fantasy games, you build your stats and gear to specific fights, you spend time thinking of the best move, and the best course of action to accomplishing goals. From things like Guardian Forces having EXP boost, gil boost, sell items high, mug, all the typical traits in a Final Fantasy game that enriches gameplay. Because gil is used in other places, sometimes you farm gil, sometimes you farm ability stats, you do one thing and it affects a certain outcome in another aspect of the game. Like my example of FFX. You farm monsters in each zone to create a new monster. You fight said created monster to obtain a specific drop. You take that specific drop to gain ability points. You do all these numerous things finding out new uses and purposes to your stats, gear, and currencies to further your character. FFXIV is just item level. Thats it.

Both World of Warcraft, and Final Fantasy XI are more complex than just item level. FFXI has an expansive gear system, World of Warcraft has both a character build system, it even has gear that has specialty stats, not game breaking or game making, but something is better than "just item level."

Even savage content is just a memory game. Either you know the fight or you dont. 99% of most wipes, outside of people simply not knowing the fights, are a cat jumping onto someones keyboard, someone having to sneeze, "wife aggro" you name it.

Absolutely there is no way I can take this seriously.

As for OP, that is me, wanting the game to improve and expand on the very things they have abandoned such as Achievement points, gear customization, point allotment, gear sets, cross class skills/traits/actions. All the things that made FFXIV, FFXIV. Its not just the story. If they stop everything to focus on just the story, when the story ends so will the game.

Thats someone who cares about FFXIV not someone who hates it.... to be so backwards I dont even know if saying this as clearly as I just did will help set you moving forward again.

[Daniolaut]

To take it even further, the things I discuss are the facts of life.

These concepts reach the entirety of life for humanity as a whole.

In food/culinary arts.

Its like comparing Reese's Peanut Butter Cups to Peanut Butter Pots de Creme.

Now you're going to tell me Reese's cups are a culinary marvel?

Or comparing a Toyota Prius to a Aston Martin. So now you'll say a Prius is an automotive wonder?

People with specified tastes play RPG's, someone who wants something easy and quick and fun to play, play Angry Birds.

These are the absolute basic fundamentals of humanity.

Again, I repeat, wanting FFXIV to be a Final Fantasy is someone who enjoys Final Fantasy, wanting it to become an action game, or a platform game, is not a fan of the series.

[linayar]

Rap and todays pop music are vastly popular and are the most base and senseless drivel.

If what you say is true, then your thread is pointless because apparently depth does not sell as much, or at least, your definition of depth.

[Gallec]

I have to agree with OP. This game is all of what he/she mentioned. They made a neat duty finder online game with classes that you have to spam rotations on with no development to them. Sounds a lot like TBC Wow . I mean, I understand what they had to do with vanilla FFIV. I do hope they are working on another FF mmo as this world and lore has a lot to offer for a fun sandbox type game. However, the mmo genre is on its last legs due to games like these trying to cater and give something for everyone instead of making a fun world to play in. Still, the devs have worked hard to keep this game going and I give them mad props!

[Darsien]

To take it even further, the things I discuss are the facts of life.

These concepts reach the entirety of life for humanity as a whole.

In food/culinary arts.

Its like comparing Reese's Peanut Butter Cups to Peanut Butter Pots de Creme.

Now you're going to tell me Reese's cups are a culinary marvel?

Or comparing a Toyota Prius to a Aston Martin. So now you'll say a Prius is an automotive wonder?

People with specified tastes play RPG's, someone who wants something easy and quick and fun to play, play Angry Birds.

These are the absolute basic fundamentals of humanity.

Again, I repeat, wanting FFXIV to be a Final Fantasy is someone who enjoys Final Fantasy, wanting it to become an action game, or a platform game, is not a fan of the series.

What sort of moronic gatekeeping is this?

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What sort of moronic gatekeeping is this?

I second this actually. Can we stop pretending Final Fantasy ever cared about your chosen party's class structure, besides maybe 4 And some broken few fights in other franchises where it was the cheese strategy?