Blue mage is a waste of potential, change my mind.

[Raikai]

Blue mage job concept itself is not bad. It's just you need blue mage friends to actually play most of the contents. With new level 70 cap incoming, old contents for blue are mostly dead and you will be sitting for hours in pf just to wait for the slot to fill up. They should do something about this. Maybe adding some dailies and weeklies incentive to make people to at least try the job.

They also can just add the queue function to the Blue Log, on top of the party finder option.
But above that, if they add a button to join a Daily Random Roulette there, with decent completion rewards, they will surely inject more people running BLU dungeon parties, thus making a bit easier for those queueing for specific places.
Also adding a Blue Mage instance completion to Wondrous Tails would give a bit more incentive for people to run them.

In this Daily dungeon queue, the Silver star target and the gold star target, they all should also reward some Allegory tomes instead of Allied Seals.

[TeraTyrantShadic]

They also can just add the queue function to the Blue Log, on top of the party finder option.
But above that, if they add a button to join a Daily Random Roulette there, with decent completion rewards, they will surely inject more people running BLU dungeon parties, thus making a bit easier for those queueing for specific places.
Also adding a Blue Mage instance completion to Wondrous Tails would give a bit more incentive for people to run them.

In this Daily dungeon queue, the Silver star target and the gold star target, they all should also reward some Allegory tomes instead of Allied Seals.

Blue Mage Log is an All Blue Mage Party and again I am going to have to point this out. Not everyone will put in the effort to obtain the spells necessary for each role unless they are well informed about it and most of the time they would skip to level 60 with power leveling. So either adding it as a Blue Mage or Limited Job only queue would be a disaster if anything.

[JiSH]

Blue Mage Log is an All Blue Mage Party and again I am going to have to point this out. Not everyone will put in the effort to obtain the spells necessary for each role unless they are well informed about it and most of the time they would skip to level 60 with power leveling. So either adding it as a Blue Mage or Limited Job only queue would be a disaster if anything.

Yep, especially with how meticulous skill learning is, most people won't have the "required" skills to properly run a duty unless they really put time and effort into it. Not only that sometimes people doesn't even know what their skills does, they just collect it, this is one of the biggest weakness with how current BLU is designed as a side content, people really doesn't care too much about them.

[Alysella]

Blue mage spells keep increasing from time to time. They can't do the basic class quest for tutorial like other normal classes. The spells are mostly reused assets from old contents. Basically they are making blue mage from scraps of stuffs. Class specific gauge for blue mage might be nice to have so it has its own uniqueness and not just spells collector.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

How to farm skills? you need use full BLU party to do it.

You only need to be level synced to learn skills. It doesn't matter what the party composition is.

[KuraRedmoon]

People saying that the Blue duty roulette not working because lack of skills, you can just have the Blue Duty Roulette locked until they have those necessary skills. And how do you know what's necessary? The Blue Quests before was already giving us certain skills we had to learn to proceed. They can do it that way, and at the end of the Blue Quest line you unlock Blue Duty Roulette. It's that simple. Especially since getting skills now is 100% easier.

[Mariel_Crystallie]

You only need to be level synced to learn skills. It doesn't matter what the party composition is.

But still you need a pre-made party to do it and finding people in PF for helping you to do it takes forever. If they really want to fix this maybe suggestion from KuraRedmoon (#276) will really helpful , but still I really prefer BLU has become normal job that can queue dungeon like other jobs.

[JiSH]

People saying that the Blue duty roulette not working because lack of skills, you can just have the Blue Duty Roulette locked until they have those necessary skills. And how do you know what's necessary? The Blue Quests before was already giving us certain skills we had to learn to proceed. They can do it that way, and at the end of the Blue Quest line you unlock Blue Duty Roulette. It's that simple. Especially since getting skills now is 100% easier.

If i remember correctly, the only skills that are required to progress job quests are only Water Cannon, Mind Blast, 1000 Needles, and Glower, that's nowhere near enough. I remember that you have to learn a specific amount of skills to unlock something(the totems, was it?) but i don't think it's tied in to the job quest, so a reworking is still needed if we're going with what you said. Even when the "learn specific amount" of skills part is tied in to the job quests then comes "what spells are useful, and what spells are useless in a duty?" because of how many gimmicky spells they currently have, and the easy to get ones are the gimmicky useless ones, so they really have to set what skills are required for them to queue in a duty. BUT even then, people will end up doing all these is a chore JUST to get into duty finder, they might as well not do it at all and just play actual jobs that are more useful and playable in literally every other DoW/DoM content.

[KuraRedmoon]

If i remember correctly, the only skills that are required to progress job quests are only Water Cannon, Mind Blast, 1000 Needles, and Glower, that's nowhere near enough. I remember that you have to learn a specific amount of skills to unlock something(the totems, was it?) but i don't think it's tied in to the job quest, so a reworking is still needed if we're going with what you said. Even when the "learn specific amount" of skills part is tied in to the job quests then comes "what spells are useful, and what spells are useless in a duty?" because of how many gimmicky spells they currently have, and the easy to get ones are the gimmicky useless ones, so they really have to set what skills are required for them to queue in a duty. BUT even then, people will end up doing all these is a chore JUST to get into duty finder, they might as well not do it at all and just play actual jobs that are more useful and playable in literally every other DoW/DoM content.

I mean if you're playing Blue Mage you know what you signed up for. If getting skills is a chore then playing Blue Mage is a chore, cause that's the main appeal of the job. Learning Monster Skills and using them against other Monsters.

It would need a rework going forward. But if this Blue Roulette is only at 70 then they could start it now for sure. But I see what you mean about the job quests needing it. The tricky part is the skills but I don't think it'd be much of an issue.

[Tabbs]

Still very much in favor of BLU being a full job. Was thinking about it and, seeing as we got 2 BLU patches this xpac, I wouldn't mind seeing a "promotion" type content for limited jobs that happens when the job reaches max level. Maybe you help set up a new job guild for that job; Martyn does mention wanting to create one after all. The team responsible for creating new jobs would have a lot of time over several xpacs to work on the full version of a limited job while it remains in the limited stage.

Once it promotes, the limited version's content remains playable (maybe via a toggle action that demotes you) but doesn't continue to receive new content. This way, new limited jobs (bst, ppt) can get attention and the eventual "promotion" treatment. Unlikely to happen, but it would be a fun way to get a bit of both worlds.