Online store prices are outrageously high!

[Rymm]

Good lord, this is still going? I would have thought that at least the fresh housing outrage would have been enough to bury this poor dead horse, but I guess not.

It's their job to make the game, and I'm already paying for that. The idea that I should have to pay extra for cosmetics is just price gouging.

Countless people in this thread have tried to explain both how the mog station staff is a different team than the rest of the game and how a business is run. As well as why it's necessary to generate revenue with completed products to pay for overhead on the development and production of new products. The only thing more mind boggling than your naiveté as to how businesses function is how willfully you insist on remaining ignorant.

Clearly you have no interest in understanding, so what is the point of this thread? To state your opinion? You have. We get it. Mission accomplished. You aren't going to change anyone's minds with this thread- not the posters who disagree with your assessment and certainly not the devs, marketing team, or anyone with the power to change the prices, who will never even be aware of its existence.

So what's the point? You've shouted into the void, the act of which will either make you feel better or won't, so why persist? Are you seeking validation in your opinion by looking for others who share it? Well it's a pretty big world out there, so you can rest assured that statistically someone is bound to. Whether or not there's enough likeminded people to effectuate any change is a whole other ball of wax. And the fact that the mog station prices haven't budged even though these threads have existed since it launched makes me disinclined to believe that there are.

[SenorPatty]

Good lord, this is still going? I would have thought that at least the fresh housing outrage would have been enough to bury this poor dead horse, but I guess not.


Countless people in this thread have tried to explain both how the mog station staff is a different team than the rest of the game and how a business is run. As well as why it's necessary to generate revenue with completed products to pay for overhead on the development and production of new products. The only thing more mind boggling than your naiveté as to how businesses function is how willfully you insist on remaining ignorant.

Clearly you have no interest in understanding, so what is the point of this thread? To state your opinion? You have. We get it. Mission accomplished. You aren't going to change anyone's minds with this thread- not the posters who disagree with your assessment and certainly not the devs, marketing team, or anyone with the power to change the prices, who will never even be aware of its existence.

So what's the point? You've shouted into the void, the act of which will either make you feel better or won't, so why persist? Are you seeking validation in your opinion by looking for others who share it? Well it's a pretty big world out there, so you can rest assured that statistically someone is bound to. Whether or not there's enough likeminded people to effectuate any change is a whole other ball of wax. And the fact that the mog station prices haven't budged even though these threads have existed since it launched makes me disinclined to believe that there are.

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1. Other games having worse cash shops doesn't not excuse this cash shop being greedy.
2. There has been exactly one sale on mounts/costumes/minions/barding since I've started playing which was about 16 months ago. Having sales this far apart is not helpful.
3. Telling me to not buy an item is not a helpful response. I want the item, but they're overcharging for it. I do a lot of fashion related stuff and not having access to this stuff is crippling.
4. If this topic comes up a lot, then that says more about the shop than the anyone talking about it.

That's why lol.

Not having the shinies. It's a very serious problem in FF14. If you know someone who suffers from crippling noglaminosis, please contact your local support group. Together, we can help.

[JamieRose]

Yup, their job was to make the game, and you got that via sub and what not.
Anything else is extra.
Look up the definition of "extra".
While you're at it, look up the definition of "luxury".
Aaanndd while you're at it, google the process of creating the content you 'oh so love so much'.

You know, I checked out your profile, and you're one sour individual, almost non-stop complaints really in the forums. I feel like talking to a brick wall with you, ngl. If you don't hear what you want to hear, you just scream and whine.

Why don't you ask yourself, "what can I do to fix this for myself?" since it's clearly a YOU problem? Myself and various others don't find the prices to be that high, and I can afford to buy mounts, glams, emotes and what not any time I want, and I'm a broke ass college student. It's called picking and choosing what to pay for, you know, saving? A practice a LOT of folks do...but perhaps that is beyond you. Idk by this point. *shrug*

Sorry you think that way.

Being an artist myself that animates, does concept design and what not, this is really absurd that you think it's "so easy". I get it, once it's created, it's done and that's that, I really do. But damn man, are you really seriously THIS butthurt because you want items to cost $1? I feel sorry for you almost.

Wow. Okay, Mr. Judgmental. You clearly have no understanding of my financial situation or anything else about me other than that I come to a forum to bring up issues with a game when this is the place designated for bringing up said issues. I'm well aware of what goes into concept design, animation and art and I don't need you to talk down to me about it like a little kid. There's disagreeing with a person's point of view, then there's doing what you're doing. Which is tone policing and being outright rude about it.

It does beg the question, if you're so sure of you're position then why are you hitting me with ad hominems?

[JohnSpawnVFX]

The irony of flipping out over someone being judgemental and ad hominemical torwards them when they've been nothing but the same torwards others who disagree here.

[Divinemights]

Wow. Okay, Mr. Judgmental. You clearly have no understanding of my financial situation or anything else about me other than that I come to a forum to bring up issues with a game when this is the place designated for bringing up said issues. I'm well aware of what goes into concept design, animation and art and I don't need you to talk down to me about it like a little kid. There's disagreeing with a person's point of view, then there's doing what you're doing. Which is tone policing and being outright rude about it.

It does beg the question, if you're so sure of you're position then why are you hitting me with ad hominems?

I thinks he is right about you that is the problem
After reviewing all your forum posts, it is pretty much all negatives and make you looks like either you are trolling or utterly unhappy with this game.
You are also not showing any sign of listen to reasoning, understand the logic or respond constructively.

[JTF-Taru]

Don't know about what's on the PS Store but a lot of what's on Steam is DLC made by third parties trying to make a quick buck off someone else's IP where licensing agreements allow it, and it's frequently of inferior quality to boot.

Please, go buy those games and that DLC if you think it's a better value.

Not true. There are plenty of AAA games on Steam. And stop telling people to leave if they don't like something. That doesn't work with countries or video games.

Again you're making no sense and it just shows that you didn't read what I posted. I didn't say you can't compare. I said any comparison you make is useless. So what if you think it's overpriced compared to some other stores' prices? If there is enough people who buy SE's store items at the given price, then SE would be incentivized to keep the price and adjust for anything they think should be priced even higher.

I'm making perfect sense and I've read exactly what you posted – you've posted it 47,000 times now. It would be impossible for anyone in this thread not to read it.

Comparisons aren't the slightest bit 'useless'. They are useful. They put things into context and show you why something is over-priced compared to something else. All over the world and throughout history, people have compared things to gauge which is better and to determine if something is fairly priced.

Acting like these comparisons have never taken place is the act of a reality denier of the worst kind. I've asked you multiple times if you ever go onto YouTube comparison videos and spend weeks telling the video makers they are wasting their time as comparisons are useless. I'm guessing you don't. So why are you spewing that nonsense here?

If people see that DLC is over-priced in this game, then they will talk about it as they are entitled to do. It may do nothing or enough of these threads may filter back to SE HQ and they drop some prices. Who knows? Telling people that they can't compare things or that comparisons are useless makes no sense when people do it all the time.

And again.. If you're buying it, it's not overpriced.

And again if you're buying something it IS over-priced (if you think it's over-priced).

Like linayar, you're trying to tell people what THEY think. You just don't get to tell people what they think. When are you going to realise that?

All over the world people buy things and then proclaim they knew they were over-paying but they bought the thing anyway. This happens all the time. To try and pretend all these people don't exist is the act of a very close-minded person.

The companies will find no reason to reduce pricing on something if people continue to purchase it. You can be unhappy with the price, you can think it's unfair.. but if you're buying it.. you are sending a message that the price is acceptable.

Buying something doesn't tell the company you don't think it's over-priced at all. Things like frequency of purchase do that – someone who buys regularly may be marked as a happy customer. Someone who plays for years and only buys one or two DLC probably won't be and will give a good indication they are possibly displeased with something.

[Krotoan]

And again if you're buying something it IS overpriced (if you think it's over-priced).

Like linayar, you're trying to tell people what THEY think. You just don't get to tell people what they think. When are you going to realise that?

All over the world people buy things and then proclaim they knew they were over-paying but they bought the thing anyway. This happens all the time. To try and pretend all these people don't exist is the act of a very close-minded person.

If you'd pay attention you'd see I'm not telling people what they're thinking. I'm saying what they're DOING. Accepting the price.. telling the companies with the "overpriced" goods that the goods will still sell, meaning that those prices will not change.

People who say one thing and then do another definitely happens. People do not take personal responsibility for their actions all the time. This doesn't change the results of their actions: The pricing does not change as the demand has not changed.

[JTF-Taru]

Please show me one. You can keep saying that "everyone knows" but I have yet to hear an example from you that isn't just hearsay.

Oh dear. Now you're claiming that never in the history of the planet has a company ever reduced their prices because of customer complaints? Are you serious? You're asking me to provide you with a single example of any company ever that has reduced its prices due to customer complaints because you've never heard of such a thing?

I'll make you the same deal I've offered you countless times before when you've said something unbelievably crass. If I can find one example of the thing you claim has never existed, you delete your forum account, delete your characters and never post here again. Do we have a deal? According to you, no such thing has ever happened so you're at no risk. I keep offering and you never accept. I wonder why?

Every time I come on here and read linayar's replies I think to myself that he/she is the most close-minded person I have ever seen on the web. Then I read your posts and I just don't know...

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There are plenty of examples – you've been told where to go many times. You just keep pretending they're not there.

I appreciate you're not used to people taking you seriously but it does happen quite a lot to other people. If you care so much and believe what you're saying so much, why won't you take one of the deals? Clearly you don't believe your own words or you'd put your account on the line for them.

And if I took anything personally I'd post here a lot more than I do.

You came back after a week JUST to reply to me. ...

I came back to see replies to my earlier posts. I replied to 3 other people before you so why say I only came back 'for you'?

The post for the other people is above yours - you can't have missed it.

I guess it just highlights the mentality of the forum poster who thinks if he / she says what he / she wants to be true, then it must be, no matter what other people can see. Here is some more rope. I'll be back next week to see how you hung yourself with it then. Sorry I'm not on here more often. I don't find talking to people like you every day a productive use of time.

By the way, last week you said:

I'm done trying to convince you

Yet here you are again still copying and pasting your same BS.

Just as an FYI – you'll never be able to convince anyone that something they can see with their own eyes (like me replying to 3 other people) or something that is a world-wide phenomenon (like people buying something and admitting they over-paid for it) doesn't exist. Once you appreciate that, then you can begin to realise why you're wasting so much of your life here.

[Krotoan]

Oh dear. Now you're claiming that never in the history of the planet has a company ever reduced their prices because of customer complaints? Are you serious? You're asking me to provide you with a single example of any company ever that has reduced its prices due to customer complaints because you've never heard of such a thing?

I'll make you the same deal I've offered you countless times before when you've said something unbelievably crass. If I can find one example of the thing you claim has never existed, you delete your forum account, delete your characters and never post here again. Do we have a deal? According to you, no such thing has ever happened so you're at no risk. I keep offering and you never accept. I wonder why?

Every time I come on here and read linayar's replies I think to myself that he/she is the most close-minded person I have ever seen on the web. Then I read your posts and I just don't know...

Prices will usually be reduced on a luxury due to a combination of complaints and poor sales numbers. It is highly unlikely a company will reduce a price simply because people say "oh.. it's too expensive". Especially a well established and thriving company like Squeenix.

Why must everything be this "if I can find ONE counter example you leave forever" ultimatum with you?

There are plenty of examples – you've been told where to go many times. You just keep pretending they're not there.

I appreciate you're not used to people taking you seriously but it does happen quite a lot to other people. If you care so much and believe what you're saying so much, why won't you take one of the deals? Clearly you don't believe your own words or you'd put your account on the line for them.

And if I took anything personally I'd post here a lot more than I do.

And yet you refuse to give me one yourself. SO MANY TO CHOOSE FROM. .. pick one and show me.

I came back to see replies to my earlier posts. I replied to 3 other people before you so why say I only came back 'for you'?

The post for the other people is above yours - you can't have missed it.

I guess it just highlights the mentality of the forum poster who thinks if he / she says what he / she wants to be true, then it must be, no matter what other people can see. Here is some more rope. I'll be back next week to see how you hung yourself with it then. Sorry I'm not on here more often. I don't find talking to people like you every day a productive use of time.

By the way, last week you said:

I'm done trying to convince you

Yet here you are again still copying and pasting your same BS.

Just as an FYI – you'll never be able to convince anyone that something they can see with their own eyes (like me replying to 3 other people) or something that is a world-wide phenomenon (like people buying something and admitting they over-paid for it) doesn't exist. Once you appreciate that, then you can begin to realise why you're wasting so much of your life here.

You keep quoting me I will assume you wish me to respond and you are responding to ME. I'm pretty resigned to the fact you'll keep "BUT I SAY IT'S OVERPRICED SO IT IS" rhetoric but I'm here to kill time and this passes a few minutes to reply to YOUR close minded perceptions of reality.

I am wasting nothing right now.. I'm generally at work while I'm responding on this forum. Not shirking any responsibilities mind you, just earning the money to pay for things I like and typing out a few lines in my downtime.

The wonderful thing is no matter fervently you stomp your feet and insist something is overpriced, if you still pay money for it your actions are directly contradicting what you've said. Like a petulant child insisting they're not tired and they don't want to go to bed and then falling asleep on the floor.

[linayar]

if you ever go onto YouTube comparison videos and spend weeks telling the video makers they are wasting their time as comparisons are useless.

It depends. If they're making useful comparison, then of course not. If they're making a useless comparison, then I won't bother watching them or commenting on their video. Comparing different games' DLC pricing would be the latter unless they're comparing it as part of the games as a whole.