Gil sellers top the achievement list!!

[Laraul]

Amazing that people assume that names that look like gibberish must be bots or RMT. Really who cares. How are they negatively influencing the game? Oh yeah they aren't. So what's the problem again?

[syntaxlies]

Amazing that people assume that names that look like gibberish must be bots or RMT. Really who cares. How are they negatively influencing the game? Oh yeah they aren't. So what's the problem again?

because when they sell mass amounts of items in wards it destroys supply/demand ratio which drops prices for people who depend on that to make gil.

[Biggs]

Amazing that people assume that names that look like gibberish must be bots or RMT. Really who cares. How are they negatively influencing the game? Oh yeah they aren't. So what's the problem again?

I completely fail to understand how you don't get how RMT activity ruins a game economy. I get that you may think that they can't have a huge impact on XIV right now because the game population isn't that high, but they still drive the price of everything down to a point where its no longer profitable for normal characters to farm and sell materials at normal prices for crafting.

More importantly, I can't believe SE has the audacity to look us all in the face and claim they are doing something about this sort of activity when they clearly have done no such thing since the game started. I have, as of yet, to hear of ANYONE getting banned for 3rd party tools or for RMT activity. Case in point, just about every other time I log on I see the platoon of tarus all named rgntt and kyleffttt running around in groups of 20-30 leve sharing for gil.

But I am sure those are all just totally legitimate players that happen to all be the same race and not care what their characters are named.

[Valmonte]

and thats the problem

yes they may be rmt, but chances are they arent doing any business right now, they are stocking up in mass

and that....is perfectly legal, and its why they cant get any dirt on them to ban them right now


and then you got alot of people who look suspicious but probly are legit, which is why you have to investigate and not just blindly ban, you want to try your best not to hit the innocent



people will never understand the reality of it, you cant just wave a finger and ban people because of suspicion, but people are what they are, they want what they want, and if you dont do what they want, your apperently doing nothing

Sure you can what more proof do you need than a bunch of poorly punched in key names(x8) and a person that never sleeps, never eats, and never takes a piss?

the fact is SE just doesn't give a flying tit, as long as there paying there 9.99( x8) a month.

[Kimem]

http://www.ffxivpro.com/search/player?q=mrc+cosmos

I'm pretty sure there is another Mrc Cosmos in Gysahl. I saw him with his taru minions in Cedarwood.

[Davorok]

Not only are they technically not doing anything illegal (untill they actually sell some gil) they are in fact simply utilizing a Power Level System that Yoshi himself fully endorsed.

Yes, they are doing it for the gil, not to "level a friend to play with" but they are using the same broken mechanic.

Perhaps the XVI version of RMT Measures is to make it so easy and so obvious that they can do mass bannings every few months after the markets have once again had a meltdown and the economy settles down for a little while...

...wait, that sounds a lot like the way it is in every MMO ever.

I sometimes think these Video Game Companies tolerate RMT to an extent because it does provide many subscriptions and they can show Subscription Growth Figures to the Board of Trustees every quarter (after the bannings of course), but I am a big Conspiracy Theorist and tend to believe things like that.

[TheVedis]

Sure you can what more proof do you need than a bunch of poorly punched in key names(x8) and a person that never sleeps, never eats, and never takes a piss?

the fact is SE just doesn't give a flying tit, as long as there paying there 9.99( x8) a month.

once again, you contradict what im saying with what you are thinking

someone who plays 24/7 for days on end, actively, not stopping, is proof something is being done thats not humanly possible. thats where they can get them

but problem is there are also ways to easily hide it too.

what if they are only active with said botting 8 hours a day? is that reasonable? of course it is as far as the human factor goes. so then what proof can you give that they are botting just at a glance?

again, you cant prove anything off of "i think hers a bot therefore he should be banned" you need real proof, and its something players can not determine on their own! sure you can report, but just because you report it, doesnt mean its an actual bot or cheater. and thats where the problem with people lies when they demand punishment, they cant prove it, and demand it be done on their word alone

[Kinseykinz]

Lol...check out some of the ls's they happen to be in (if they are in a shell). Odd named shells AND everyone only rank 50 CNJ or THM...in all their shells...

That said: if they aren't selling money then so far, they are just taking advantage of the leve game mechanic system atm. Which is completely in line with the current game TOA/system. It sucks but it is what it is.

[Biggs]

I don't see how people can think they are stock piling money without selling it though. The whole point of RMT'ing is to make a profit, and sitting around waiting for an MMO that failed hard to get better on the off chance that the price of selling gill will go up seems fairly contradictory to any sort of smart business model. In fact, paying for a ton of accounts monthly now without moving any of the gill your stock piling to make a profit sounds like they would in fact be LOSING money. But then again, I have no idea how these people really think, so who knows, maybe your right.

[TheVedis]

I don't see how people can think they are stock piling money without selling it though. The whole point of RMT'ing is to make a profit, and sitting around waiting for an MMO that failed hard to get better on the off chance that the price of selling gill will go up seems fairly contradictory to any sort of smart business model. In fact, paying for a ton of accounts monthly now without moving any of the gill your stock piling to make a profit sounds like they would in fact be LOSING money. But then again, I have no idea how these people really think, so who knows, maybe your right.

well, the thing is, how do we know if any of it is moving at all


maybe they are "trying to move it, but since nothing is selling, there is no way to prove they are actualy RMT at the moment

but they arent giving up cuz they know the direction the game is heading, and they will be prepared for when that happens(and thats when they will get caught)