Toxic WHM Glare spammers

[Ashemmi]

Look if you're a WHM I would assume part of doing your job would be to keep a regen on the tank.

Not always. By default, I enter throwing regen and Devine Benison on the tank. In standard content, I will alternate between Asylum and Temperance when the tank stops with whatever size group he pulls. Assize and Holy spam, then assess. Ideally healing will involve Afflatus Solace so I can get my blood lily. If the tank hasn't taken much damage because they're mitigating well, or DPS is absolutely rolling with the group, it's very unlikely that I will bother with regen. That tick will cut into my ability to generate the lily. If the tank is getting hammered, regen is a thing. All in all, I am more likely to toss a regen on a single DPS who took some damage. Their need usually isn't as deep, nor as regular. That said, I tend to utilize regen quite a bit, typically about as much as I use assize, it's just not a guarantee for the tank.

[Ilyrian]

Look if you're a WHM I would assume part of doing your job would be to keep a regen on the tank.

Regen is cast if you're moving.

[Kewitt]

Sound about the way I play WHM, if a heal isn't needed it's not being cast.
I start with regen, medica II and spam DPS spells. 90% of the time that takes it to the end of the pull whether it be 1 or 2 groups.

My goal after you pull is to never cure past 100% as a WHM healer with shields is different. But as a WHM if I'm curing over 100% it means I'm overhealing and should be casting DPS spells.

On the other side of the note my hubby isn't a very good healer and almost never cast anything but heals, he gets panicked, I would fall asleep with all that downtime.

[Penthea]

Well I'd rather a healer who doesn't dps than a healer who doesn't heal. You can just pull more if the healer only wants to heal. You end up having to pull less if the healer refuses to heal.

[Veis_Alveare]

Well I'd rather a healer who doesn't dps than a healer who doesn't heal. You can just pull more if the healer only wants to heal. You end up having to pull less if the healer refuses to heal.

I'd tacitly agree, but with the caveat that upon trying this as a tank the zero dps healers are also usually incapable enough that full pulls are sketchy at best. I used to have the mentality of "well if you only want to heal I'll give you something to heal" but now like... they're bad and I treat them as such.

I've also not experienced a healer in 4man fully refusing to heal. Like maybe not healing dps when they take avoidable damage which sometimes leads to their death upon them taking unavoidable damage but I've not seen someone just not heal at all apart from a SCH in AV once who wouldn't cast succor or WD. We couldn't progress past the first boss because no one could stay alive through the bleed.

[Kes13a]

I personally have little use for combat healers that are dps first, healer second. I will use Holy if I can go through the cast time and not lose the tank (which depending on the tank and the pull can be a problem)

if I have time and no one is in urgent need of healing I will help with dps,

most of the time I dont trust the other healers to do the work unless I know them, so yes, if the other healer seems to only want to throw glare, I just ignore them and complain about it later, and hope to never see them in a raid in my group again. (or heal for me if I am anything other than healer lol)

[Liam_Harper]

Well I'd rather a healer who doesn't dps than a healer who doesn't heal.

I too, would prefer a mud sandwich over one filled with broken glass, but neither are exactly desirable.

[Penthea]

I too, would prefer a mud sandwich over one filled with broken glass, but neither are exactly desirable.

I agree they're both bad but one is definitely worse than the other.

[Darkplanet]

yea its a thing haha. I do admit to getting annoyed by this quite a lot, but in a calm state of mind I say let people play the way they want to play, whether we think its bad or not.

[RajNish]

I have played this game for years and that percentage is ridiculously exaggerated. That leads me to believe you are one of the people who don't know what optimal white mage play is.

If a group of 4/8 people are dead because healer is not healing, this is definitely not the optimal playstyle. When the tank heals group and the DPS revives the party members, while the healer is dpsing, this is again not the optimal playstyle. If a healer casts regen on a tank before pull, and then suffers from aggro, running away in a panic, this is not the optimal playstyle. If whole group begging for LB3, but heal simply does not know what it is, having 80 lvl, this is not the optimal playstyle.

So, if you are using your healing skills optimally alongside your dps, this conversation is not about you.

You, sir, are an example of why I don't heal random dungeons. I refuse to queue as a healer in any 4 party dungeon.

If the opinion of strangers is of such importance, of course, not going to the dungeons with pugs is a good decision.

So remember this while you wait 30minutes for a queue to pop on a random dungeon, and think, is the lack of healers caused by something you said?

I’m usually playing as heal or tank, so I’m not waiting 30 minutes for a queue to pop.

Far, FAR more often do I see curebots who never bother to use Holy/Gravity/Art of War, their single target DPS spells, constantly use the garbage skill each healer gets as their first basic heal or Medica/Succor/Helios, etc.

I've seen bots in more than 4600 dungeons a couple of times only, but I'm not sure if they were bots. Does this mean that you are lying or hyperbolic? I don’t think so. It just means that you and I have different experiences. Maybe it depends on the data center, I don't know.