Bozja Critique: Almost there, but not quite

[Driavna]

This instance feels better in a lot of ways but multiple aspects such as FATEs dying too quickly, the gods-awful party queue system for engagements (It shouldn't exist when you can't even guarantee your entire party is going to get into the engagement and should just allow individual queues at all times), ,unavoidable mettle loss from deaths (Which can easily be caused by other players), and the obnoxiously long tether range on mobs all are sources of frustration for me still.

It is also really dumb that it's faster to relic grind outside of the instance then inside.

I don't think we are supposed to be running around doing all fates after a certain point. More like sticking to an area farming rank 4-5 and going around what's nearby us.

Losing mattle is making everyone not wanting to do certain stuff until capped (I'm not even sure we have a cap tbh), super annoying since people seem to be ignoring everything but farming mattle at this point.

[ADVSS]

I get the feeling that it's Yoshida deciding to monkey's paw everyone (including me) who said that they found the Anima weapon grind better than the Eureka one. So now we get to effectively do an Anima weapon again.
Yayyyyy....

(that or it's to drag the trial/f2p players trough content)

I met a player who was 60 in almost every job and crafter. They were on the free trial. P sure, that this is gonna help those free trial people playing through HW to get their story dungeron clears personally sp that "maybe" they will sub to get their jovs/crafters past 60

[KageTokage]

The FATEs die so quickly that even if I'm 40 yards away I can still potentially miss out due to the lack of HP/mob scaling if there's even a moderately large group of players participating.

[Alleo]

cos it's fun content, there's some cool fights to be hand inside the instance, plus it has story.

Story is a one time thing and these cool fights are RNG. You can be so unlucky and barey get any invites to it. In the end this is fate farming but in a new zone. And sometimes a few boss encounters with a bit more mechanics (but big world fates have those too, just that they are not restricted into a little circle). I guess if you love Fates than it would be fun content but how long will that stay alive? And now they even made the outside one 100% drop while the fates inside the new content is not guaranteed?

Didn't people complain you HAD TO DO EUREKA IF YOU WANTED A RELIC?

Now you don't... And people complain....


Jesus... This is why we never get dev talks anymore.

Woah all those screams. ö_Ö.. I do give it to the devs that they listened and made us able to do it outside of it. But them listening does not suddenly stop all the other complaints one can have or that they part they listened about was done badly. And it does not make sense that the new content has a much worse drop rate than stuff that is already there..wouldnt you want to make the people run the new content? Its after all the thing that you used a lot of ressources on. Heck they simply could have made the basic drop rate the same everywhere (being 100%) and then people can decide..or give Bozja a bit of a cherry on the top by giving a chance to drop 2 instead of 1 from time to time.

[Infindox]

I'm enjoying the area but I'm at a point now where doing harder CEs is dangerous because I lose 900+ mettle each death. I enjoy the harder fights, but it feels more productive to just wait around doing skirmishes then go in the easy ones at this point if I want to reach cap on the rank (15).
Instances also die WAY too quickly imo. Last night I was catching up a friend with their rank and we weren't even an hour in and when the math robot CE popped, there were only 28 people in the instance (we passed it barely).
I'm hoping more people get to rank 10 soon as well, I just want to do the Castrum CE but the one time it popped only 7 people went in.

[Deceptus]

I'm enjoying the area but I'm at a point now where doing harder CEs is dangerous because I lose 900+ mettle each death. I enjoy the harder fights, but it feels more productive to just wait around doing skirmishes then go in the easy ones at this point if I want to reach cap on the rank (15).
Instances also die WAY too quickly imo. Last night I was catching up a friend with their rank and we weren't even an hour in and when the math robot CE popped, there were only 28 people in the instance (we passed it barely).
I'm hoping more people get to rank 10 soon as well, I just want to do the Castrum CE but the one time it popped only 7 people went in.

That's the problem with having the low level folks be in the same instance as the high level folks. They should honestly be split. Low to mid, and mid to high in a zone.

[TaleraRistain]

I'm so tired of FATEs

They could have had daily missions. They could have retained the challenge log. They could have had normal mobs give a small amount of mettle so you could progress without FATEs. But they didn't do any of that. Their answer to everything these days is just farm FATEs for it. And we get this instead of a new Deep Dungeon? Are we suffering because of the attention on XVI? I'm seriously starting to wonder.

[HeyMcFly]

I've seen people say it's quicker to farm the relic materials outside of bozja. Is this True? - If so, to me makes doing bozja kind of pointless if you're going for a relic weapon. Why make a new area that includes getting a new weapon in which you can get the new items for as well, but the kicker is- it takes longer to get those items inside the content it was meant for so just go back to the older content to get it quicker.

[Infindox]

I've seen people say it's quicker to farm the relic materials outside of bozja. Is this True? - If so, to me makes doing bozja kind of pointless if you're going for a relic weapon. Why make a new area that includes getting a new weapon in which you can get the new items for as well, but the kicker is- it takes longer to get those items inside the content it was meant for so just go back to the older content to get it quicker.

It is. Jump in a fate grinding party, you need 20 of each memory, there's 3 (so 60 fates total in 3 HW areas). You get one 100% of the time for a Gold Rank. Takes no more then an hour or two if you're getting full parties burning everything. Then the step after is doing 6 level 60 dungeons synced.

[Gemina]

If the 100% drop rate in the HW areas is such a compromise to BSF then why are there a ton of players running it? You guys understand that you're creating a problem where there isn't one. The alternative is there is no alternative, and you have to run BSF to progress the relic.

There is a lot more to obtain in BSF than just the drops needed to upgrade the relic. And these rewards provide plenty of incentive to run the content.

If you want to critique this content, I would approach it from a different angle than "just another FATE grind". We are all pretty aware of the grind. You might want to bring up issues such as the potential problem with those new to Bozja and this style of content in regards to catching up with those who have been doing it, mettal acquisition, making starred mobs worth killing, or AFK players in a party still getting drops.

That's not to mention that running BSF is engaging. I couldn't care less about an abysmal drop rate so long as I'm having fun, and grinding HW fates solo is the exact opposite of that. By the time I left BSF, I didn't even realize I acquired half of what I need to advance the relic and I still have 8 ranks to go.