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  1. #371
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    Koori_Roninheart's Avatar
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    Koori Roninheart
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Exodus still has a few small houses scattered throughout, but all with timers. And all seemily with at least one person hoping and praying that the Placard will unlock for them. I was shocked to hear the newest wards were on timers, but someone explained trolls went through relocating houses on purpose in the AM to put timers on plots?! (Who does that?) I don't have my name in the hat this time, but watching my friends is tough. One is going on 10 hours now. (Yes I know it's by their choice) Just wish the random timer was a shorter, 3 hours? (or turned off during a housing rush). Sorry to those that have not even the slightest chance, hopefully SE will quickly unlock more wards. I kinda hope when Ishguard housing unlocks that they double/triple the number of large and mediums available per ward, nothing says they have to be majority of small lots. - K
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  2. #372
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    SoleilAlphi's Avatar
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    Radimir Amarya
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    Tonberry
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    Thaumaturge Lv 21
    given that 99% of wards are ghost towns with nothing to actually lose, yes to instanced housing. Not that it really matters if we want instances or wards anyway since I doubt SE will do anything at all but... hey, it's just my own opinion.
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  3. #373
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    Almagnus1's Avatar
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    Maley Oakensage
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    SE needs to do the following:
    • Add instanced housing
    • Add more wards
    • Give all characters on a server teleports to all houses owned by all the characters on the same account on that server
    • Reinstate the restrictions at https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/ and never disable them
    • Change the above restrictions on FC houses to not check housing ownership on the account (because that doesn't make sense), instead check if the FC has four active subscriptions (as four signatures are needed to create the FC).
    • Use a countdown/count up timer for the FC house where it releases the house if the timer reaches zero, the timer only counts down if the number of active subscriptions is less then four, and counts up if there are at least four active subscriptions if the timer was in count down mode until it's at max duration.
    • Force the release of the grandfathered in houses over a series of patches

    SE does all of the above and that will end this problem, until then, we'll continue to have people on this forum tell others to just git gud at house buying when others state flaws within this system (as seen in this thread).
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  4. #374
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    Moonlite's Avatar
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    Midnight Falcon
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    2 years for HW's 2 years for SB 1+ year for ShB. How much patience should people have? Just asking for the people clicking placards.



    All housing has been is a never ending bandaid and a bunch of apologists.
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  5. #375
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    Anselmet's Avatar
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    Laurent Vestra
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    I'm just gonna say this, I finally got my first house after trying since they were implemented back in 2.3. For years, I couldn't buy a house bc of scalpers selling houses for way more than they were worth, spent hours clicking housing signs and finally gave up getting a house and transferred to a smaller server. How long ago was 2.3? Five years ago roughly. It shouldn't have taken me five years and a transfer to get a house and I know that I was incredibly lucky bc I could have disconnected as soon as I logged in to be sent to the back of line, which yes, has happened to me multiple times in the past.

    I can't comprehend how they're still okay with wards. You never see people to create a community feel like they dreamed of. There is no dedicated shout chatter in wards and feel the most dead places to be in the game. So why are they dedicated to that dream? And I know that once Ishgard housing comes, I'll never get a plot there unless I spend several years trying. And who knows if this game will still be around.

    Happy I got a house, but also, screw waiting this long and having to go through this nightmare. As their players we deserve better than this.
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  6. #376
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    Jojoya's Avatar
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    People like having ward communities. I know I do. I don't wanna see them go away.
    Nothing says they have to go away. The current wards could be retained for those who like the wards, are willing to compete for plots and can accept the risk of demolition.

    Instanced house plots would be for those who want more than an apartment/FC room and don't really care whether a neighbor can see their house.

    Right now if you picked up my personal house and stuck it in an instance with a mock backdrop displaying a fake ward, I wouldn't know the difference. I see maybe one or two other players a month in the ward at most. Things are busier around our FC house but then we're a moderately active FC and member friends stop by fairly often. Instanced housing wouldn't prevent that from continuing to happen. MB convenience wouldn't even have to be lost with instanced housing if a ward layout was used for a common area with just the house plots being instanced.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 10-14-2020 at 08:11 AM.

  7. #377
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    Nomenanza's Avatar
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    Noma Nanza
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    Tonberry
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    Samurai Lv 80
    I had just waited for TWELVE hours on a plot: it had a good spot, it was near a marketboard, it was a small plot too like I wanted.
    Twelve hours wasted because while I was there ready to press a buy button the plot was already bought by another player that just spammed the plaque, as apparently the status of the plot doesn't update in the plot window!

    How hard is it to just show a timer on the menu? What is even the point of hiding the timer? I don't get it. The biggest frustration with housing is just not being able to even know when the plot is available for purchase.

    It feels as if the entire system is more rewarding to whoever uses bots, as you can't expect a human to just sit there and spam the spot with purchase requests for hours on end. Especially if they play on consoles like I do.
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  8. #378
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nomenanza View Post
    How hard is it to just show a timer on the menu? What is even the point of hiding the timer? I don't get it. The biggest frustration with housing is just not being able to even know when the plot is available for purchase.
    To prevent reselling. Can't tell someone to meet you at noon to trade papers and coin when you can't assure them when the plot will release. Of course the relocation system goes around this and makes the timer a bit less useful (but is a bit obtuse so not everyone will be able to easily do that one, like using the FC shell concept).

    There was a lot of reselling before the timer. OF course you can suggest other solutions but each will have their own issues. For example lottery would probably be even more bot friendly, but far less stressful / time wasting.
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  9. #379
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    Katie_Kitty's Avatar
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    Princess Whiskers
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    Exodus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Anselmet View Post
    It shouldn't have taken me five years and a transfer to get a house
    Good news, it didn't have to. I got my first house back in stormblood and since that time have had many many different houses on many servers and even different characters. It's not THAT hard to get a house. You just have to actually put effort in. I realize this game's community wants everything simply handed to them and don't want to work for anything but that doesn't mean getting a house isn't possible.
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  10. #380
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    MsQi's Avatar
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Good news, it didn't have to. I got my first house back in stormblood and since that time have had many many different houses on many servers and even different characters. It's not THAT hard to get a house. You just have to actually put effort in. I realize this game's community wants everything simply handed to them and don't want to work for anything but that doesn't mean getting a house isn't possible.
    The stars align for you so therefore "not THAT hard"? It has nothing to do with wanting things "handed to them".
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
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