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  1. #11
    Player Gothicshark's Avatar
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    Marielle Sansoleil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thi View Post
    It really is no different than playing a female WoL and learning that Ardbert is a shard of you. The whole Ardbert thing while was great story telling, feels really strange when you have a female WoL.
    Why? The human spirit, aka the soul, in Eastern Religions, is allowed a duality, Ardbert being the opposite sex of you is more fitting with Dualism, which is the theme of Shadowbringer. I find it stranger if you played a generic male Hyur Midlander. Playing any non Hyur female fits so much better with the narrative.
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    Brielle Artemus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thi View Post
    It really is no different than playing a female WoL and learning that Ardbert is a shard of you. The whole Ardbert thing while was great story telling, feels really strange when you have a female WoL.
    I play a female WoL and the only time it’s weird to me is when Ardbert starts talking through me. Like during the scene with Seto. None of the other seven fragments of myself can do that, so why does he? (Plot, I know). But then again, I’m a guy in real life.

    But I have to agree with an earlier poster here. Making Azem explicitly gay if you play a male WoL/Azem wouldn’t sit well with a lot of folks. Then again, I guess they could say, just because Azem was originally in a same-sex relationship doesn’t mean that’s who YOU are. As we still seem to be our own person with our own identity.

    But that’s why leaving it open to interpretation is cool.
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    This is MMORPG, in which it is your own interpretation matters.
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    These fanfics are getting weird.
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    Trpimir Ratyasch
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    I don't think so, but then again I'm capable of grasping the idea of a deep friendship without romantic or sexual undercurrents to it. Unlike most people, it seems.
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    Trpimir Ratyasch's Way Status (7.4 - End)
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    "There is no hope in stubbornly clinging to the past. It is our duty to face the future and march onward, not retreat inward." -Sovetsky Soyuz, Azur Lane: Snowrealm Peregrination

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    Fia Mortivault
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    If he wasn't my boyfriend before, he's my boyfriend now.
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  7. #17
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    We were colleagues, likely even friends. I'm not seeing where the MSQ implies a closer relationship than that.

    But if you're turned on by Emet Selch and want to pretend he fathered your love children, go for it.
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    Wind-up Antecedent
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    Zalera
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    You're his Billy Joel, and he's your... whomever Billy Joel is singing to in You May Be Right.
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruinfeild View Post
    These fanfics are getting weird.
    You think this is weird? You sweet summer child.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thi View Post
    It really is no different than playing a female WoL and learning that Ardbert is a shard of you. The whole Ardbert thing while was great story telling, feels really strange when you have a female WoL.
    I didn't think it seemed strange - he's not "us" in other physical aspects, so why should gender be any more tied to the soul than the rest of it?

    It seems stranger to me that Azem does vary gender according to the individual WoL.

    As for Emet-Selch, I'm not sure about lovers but "close friends" definitely seems implied - and personally I feel like that revelation was dropped on us a bit too late. (Plus his whole arc was somewhat tainted for me due to how awfully he treated Varis in his introduction - I do struggle with the shift from his petty cruelty there to less vindictive intentions.) Ultimately I was fine with him as a noble adversary but he doesn't quite click as a friend. Perhaps simply because we never spent any time with him after learning it was the case?
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