Online store prices are outrageously high!

[JTF-Taru]

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It is better to make a dollar off 1000 people than it is to make 100 dollars off 2 people.

You wrote a colossal wall of text, many thousands of characters long in which you argued with pretty much everything I said. This wall of text included the line above...which is MY main point!

That point being if SE reduced their prices, they would sell to more people, make more money and people wouldn't complain their prices are too high.

I am truly in awe of someone who can put so much time and effort into trying to prove someone wrong whilst simultaneously managing to negate everything they wrote by agreeing with the main point of the person they are arguing with…

You don't need a majority

You spent ages telling me you do need a majority but now you’re prepared to acknowledge you don’t. Couldn’t you have just done that in the first place and saved all the unnecessary posting?

By an average maybe, just because of sheer volume of microtransactional games there are out there. .

There you go agreeing with me again… Two for two? Is it some code you have that people have to point things out precisely 27 times before you’re prepared to admit they have a point?

But compared to similar games and utility it's around market price.

Some are around the same price, some are cheaper, some could even be more expensive. But we’ve gone over this multiple times. The response is still the same as it was before which is that if you manage to find 3 or 4 other companies also over-charging, it doesn’t make what they are all doing right. It just means you’ve found a handful of companies that are over-charging. No one ever said the Mog Station was the only site to over-charge for things.

You could say people have a negative view of starbucks prices and i would agree..

THREE agreements in one post?! And this one only took 12 pages of you arguing to get to…

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but people still PAY for the products, showing that the market supports the pricing

Oh dear, we were doing so well… It’s already been explained multiple times why this reasoning is flawed. Please go back and read the replies. I’ll pick this up with you again on page 47 when you’ve decided to finally change your mind.

If you keep *snip*ing my comment I cannot tell what you are replying to

It’s a public service. You just keep posting the same stuff over and over, filling the page and bloating the thread.

[Starflake]

It has been well over a year, maybe even two or longer (it's just been that long) since players have received anything in the form of veteran rewards. After this long content draught, which is STILL going on (even though understandable), SE decided to not gift anything in the form of a mount or a gear piece. No, they are selling 35 euro multiseater mounts, literally the same model you see in one of the first cutscene. It's the carriage that transports you to your main city. The fact as well that SE charges more because more people can climb on it is a pure scam and people are openly falling for it. You can stop pretending SE cares about the customer. They care about you as a consumer and FFXIV is perhaps one of the biggest enabling communities I have ever seen, shamelessly being exploited and tricked and smiling while doing it.

[Neri]

literally the same model you see in one of the first cutscene. It's the carriage that transports you to your main city.

It's not the same. That one was dual chocobo, this one has only one. That one has seat facing each other from the side, this one has1 seat facing 2 seats from front to back.

[linayar]

You claimed no one is allowed to compare things that aren't identical. I pointed out this isn’t true as every minute of every day, somewhere on this planet, people compare the prices of different things. Provably so, when you can go onto YouTube and literally see 1000s of videos of people comparing different things, often judging one to be worse value than the other.

Apparently you refuse to read.

It's not about comparing non-identical things, but about comparing non-competing things. You can compare any two things all you want, but the comparison is useless if they're not competing with each other. I can compare the price of the local restaurant with the price of a restaurant in another country and it would be equally useless. The price of the restaurant in that other country is not going to dictate the price of the local restaurant as they're not competing with each other.

Here's another example: WoW's level boost is $60 (with one included with the purchase of an expansion). That FFXIV charges $25 for level boost (and another $25 for MSQ boost, with cheaper prices for older MSQ boosts) is irrelevant to WoW's pricing as they're not competing in that way.

[Krotoan]

You spent ages telling me you do need a majority but now you’re prepared to acknowledge you don’t. Couldn’t you have just done that in the first place and saved all the unnecessary posting?

I said there were enough people buying the products to make it profitable.

There you go agreeing with me again… Two for two? Is it some code you have that people have to point things out precisely 27 times before you’re prepared to admit they have a point?

I'm trying to clarify that statistically if you take every single microstransaction-able game out there that the volume alone makes the average lower . Because there are literally thousands of them that charge pennies for things like "energy" to play and single use buffs. You have some severe selective comprehension here.

Some are around the same price, some are cheaper, some could even be more expensive. But we’ve gone over this multiple times. The response is still the same as it was before which is that if you manage to find 3 or 4 other companies also over-charging, it doesn’t make what they are all doing right. It just means you’ve found a handful of companies that are over-charging. No one ever said the Mog Station was the only site to over-charge for things.

Same thing above. Find me these cheaper priced items with the same utility. 5 cents for another tophat for your "cat world" tabby in a phone game is not comparable.

THREE agreements in one post?! And this one only took 12 pages of you arguing to get to…

A negative view does not equal something being overpriced. Again your reading comprehension needs some work.

Oh dear, we were doing so well… It’s already been explained multiple times why this reasoning is flawed. Please go back and read the replies. I’ll pick this up with you again on page 47 when you’ve decided to finally change your mind.

It has not. You have not given me ONE argument beyond "I think it's overpriced so it is". Not one.

It’s a public service. You just keep posting the same stuff over and over, filling the page and bloating the thread.

Generally when someone is having a discussion you try to be comprehensive. Though I suppose considering your earlier selective comprehension I shouldn't be surprised you're gonna handwave this away.

[Melichoir]

You wrote a colossal wall of text, many thousands of characters long in which you argued with pretty much everything I said. This wall of text included the line above...which is MY main point!

That point being if SE reduced their prices, they would sell to more people, make more money and people wouldn't complain their prices are too high.

I am truly in awe of someone who can put so much time and effort into trying to prove someone wrong whilst simultaneously managing to negate everything they wrote by agreeing with the main point of the person they are arguing with…

Youre the one failing to understand my overall position. I was addressing the points you provided directly. I was pointing out that you can make more money on a bunch of transactions compared to a few whales, not that you will. You have to find a balance. The goal of a company is going to charge as much as possible before the market says "No Way."

Which is what SE (and most businesses) do. They charge as much as they can get away with. That means if they test out and find that $35 for an item on the mogstation is the pricepoint that gives them the maximum profit, then thats the price point theyll run with. They arrive at that number through market analytics and testing. Meaning thats the number the market will bear before saying no way - aka "The market is dictated by what the consumers will shill out for." To much and they lose potential profit (as per my example) and to little and the investment isnt worth it.

What you were arguing is that it's over priced, 'cause market be damned, and it would generate more profit for SE if they dropped their price points. Which I dont agree with inherently. I dont think things are over priced. I think theyre priced at a point where itll get them near maximum profit without breaking market overall. It boils down to what they think people find it worth. And the price points they give seem to be just that. If they werent making a reasonable profit at it, they would drop the prices. But thats not happening, is it? And I dont think SE is such a stubborn stupid company that they would take a loss on something rather than adjust pricing.

[JamieRose]

Squeenix just put a $7 emote in the store.
It's like they're trying to make my point for me.

[Kes13a]

Squeenix just put a $7 emote in the store.
It's like they're trying to make my point for me.

you are right, since the other emotes are cheaper...oh wait, they are $7 too...

what was your point again?

[JohnSpawnVFX]

you are right, since the other emotes are cheaper...oh wait, they are $7 too...

what was your point again?

Complaining about not getting things for free?

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Squeenix just put a $7 emote in the store.
It's like they're trying to make my point for me.

Im gonna buy it