Quote Originally Posted by Melichoir View Post
You apparently dont get it. If the timeline doesnt matter, its not the same 'Ivalice' that you are quoting lore from. What establishes it being the same Ivalice is the order of which things occur. If things arent occuring in the correct order, that changes a lot of hte background information of the place.

Second, FFXIV isnt a continuation from the original FFXII. Thats been established.

Lastly, you missed my point. It's the fact that they ARE the same on the first as well as on the source thats the issue. Why are they the same when every single race gets different treatment lore wise because they have different histories. This is an inconsistency within FFXIV world building, which comes up specifically because they just dropped FFXII lore into FFXIV without any large adjustments. From a lore perspective, Viera is the outlier in FFXIV. And the reason theyre an outlier is because of meta reasons - the devs didnt create male viera and split the new races between HrothGar and Viera. To explain no male viera, they just ran with FFXII lore, even if it doesnt fit within FFXIV pre-existing lore and world building.
You're right, I don't get it, what does a timeline change? If its in Ivalice, its stilll Ivalice. Nothing changes. Unless something IN the timelane changes, which in canon has not happened.
I think you should go from timeline, to setting, or Universe. Maybe then your argument would work better, because it would make more sense to argue Ivalice in a different universe. But remember we went to a different world entirely, and things are still the same with Viera...so far

The Viera don't have different history. So theres no issue other then people just want it changed cause they want Male Viera.
Why is it wrong if they treat the Viera the same and keep their lore consistent, especially if they are the ONLY playable race that does this? Like legit, why is Viera so special on this when this is the way its always been for them.
I guess it would be interesting if they were different on the 1st, maybe we could have at least seen a Male over there, but then we all know that if we see them but cant play them the uproar would be just as bad but not worse, especially if we got Female Hrothgar.

The most Im getting here is maybe they should have stayed on course and not put in Viera, (since apparently that was the plan) because their lore and how they function seem to conflict with the playerbase so strongly. Like the world can function with them just fine, but its the playerbase thats struggling with it.
Idk. lol