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    Draginhikari's Avatar
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    Kari Azuresol
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlitzAceRush View Post
    They also resue the effect with Zenos when he kills his farther and the context seems the same, in fact reusing it there makes me feel like their using it to continue the parallel that we're so far and above those around us in strength that at times we can seem monstrous just like Zenos, continuing the "beast" comparison.
    Both he and us are a kin to monsters, we simply do good so most see us as heroic, but just like the general world sees Zenos as this horrid unstoppable beast, I'm sure many and more of those we've put down saw what Thordan, this unstoppable "thing" hardly a person.
    The idea of WoL and Zenos being direct foils makes the most sense and mostly seems to be the direct the story is going for mostly.

    The comparison of both WoL and Zenos as 'Monsters among men' has been brought up several times. They're both unusual skilled, always desire challenges, and capable of what appears to be nigh impossible feats. Of course, what makes them foils is primarily the fact that despite the violence the WoL has to commit in the context of the story, the WoL is empathic to those they encountered, even sometimes to the enemies they fight at times. While Zenos is basically a Psychopath with little remorse for the damage he causes. Zenos is basically what the WoL would be without that empathy.
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draginhikari View Post
    The idea of WoL and Zenos being direct foils makes the most sense and mostly seems to be the direct the story is going for mostly.

    The comparison of both WoL and Zenos as 'Monsters among men' has been brought up several times. They're both unusual skilled, always desire challenges, and capable of what appears to be nigh impossible feats. Of course, what makes them foils is primarily the fact that despite the violence the WoL has to commit in the context of the story, the WoL is empathic to those they encountered, even sometimes to the enemies they fight at times. While Zenos is basically a Psychopath with little remorse for the damage he causes. Zenos is basically what the WoL would be without that empathy.
    I just realized something from this post. Emet-Selch was attempting to create a fully Unsundered Ascian soul right? Whose soul do you think he'd be dead set on making again? Azem's. I have a feeling Zenos being a foil isn't just for show. He is in fact an attempted clone of Azem's soul, and is a failed one simply because of what you said, he has all the need to challenge himself without the WoL's intense empathy.
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    BlitzAceRush's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I just realized something from this post. Emet-Selch was attempting to create a fully Unsundered Ascian soul right? Whose soul do you think he'd be dead set on making again? Azem's. I have a feeling Zenos being a foil isn't just for show. He is in fact an attempted clone of Azem's soul, and is a failed one simply because of what you said, he has all the need to challenge himself without the WoL's intense empathy.
    Or it could be another folly of the Ancients, Emet did do everything right and figured that would work and recreate his friend but like how they overlook the life that now exists he overlooked that just giving someone all the pieces that made them who they are dosen't mean you'll get the same person, Zenos lead a different life and made different choices, even if he could have been everything Azem was freewill and environment meant he came out very differently.
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