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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily_Skye View Post
    we dont have mythic plus dungeons
    One of the best things about this game is that it doesn't have that elitist nightmare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    One of the best things about this game is that it doesn't have that elitist nightmare.
    I maxed out Mythic+ rewards with less than half the questions as to my choice of class that I've had to deal with doing post-weekly-lock Savage farm PuGs or even Ex Primals here, regardless of which class I brought -- hardly an "elitest nightmare".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    I maxed out Mythic+ rewards with less than half the questions as to my choice of class that I've had to deal with doing post-weekly-lock Savage farm PuGs or even Ex Primals here, regardless of which class I brought -- hardly an "elitest nightmare".
    Odd.

    I almost never have anyone mention my chosen job in farms, and I'm a SAM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Odd.

    I almost never have anyone mention my chosen job in farms, and I'm a SAM.
    You're the more reliable of the two currently overpowered jobs. Why would you be questioned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    You're the more reliable of the two currently overpowered jobs. Why would you be questioned?
    Because SAM is a meme and everyone hates on it for being selfish.


    Also, it's not really overpowered, just slightly ahead of the others.
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Because SAM is a meme and everyone hates on it for being selfish.


    Also, it's not really overpowered, just slightly ahead of the others.

    I would actually consider BLM to be the bigger meme. I haven't checked since the SMN nerfs but until recently it dealt less dps than a good smn, has no party buffs, no raise and less mobility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Because SAM is a meme and everyone hates on it for being selfish.


    Also, it's not really overpowered, just slightly ahead of the others.
    "Selfish" hasn't been a thing since logs swapped from pDPS-based to rDPS-based. It just means that their performance no longer depends on yours, and vice versa. At this point, the jobs you have to coordinate with and around are the ones that catch more flak.

    The gap between SAM and 3rd place is generally the largest gap between any two jobs in the game, save perhaps Physical Ranged and the job immediately above any of them. Given that we typically call Physical Ranged "underpowered", even now, wouldn't that same gap constitute an "overpowered" job when presented in the opposite direction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    I would actually consider BLM to be the bigger meme. I haven't checked since the SMN nerfs but until recently it dealt less dps than a good smn
    That is simply nonfactual except at particular percentiles of certain fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    One of the best things about this game is that it doesn't have that elitist nightmare.
    I'll take more elitism if it means we get a form of difficult content that actually has replay value outside of just getting better gear that can't be used for anything other then ultimate raids (Which comparatively have even less replay value then Savage unless you want a full collection of weapons for whatever reason).
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I'll take more elitism if it means we get a form of difficult content that actually has replay value outside of just getting better gear that can't be used for anything other then ultimate raids (Which comparatively have even less replay value then Savage unless you want a full collection of weapons for whatever reason).
    It's not really elitism (of course happens from time to time). Has more to do with WoW gearing, if you can't keep up or you are unlucky with drops finding a group will get harder. Why accepting that dude with "350 ILvL" when that other dude has "500 ILvL". Also, higher key groups are going to be way pickier with what classes they want for their party or if you have a certain drop or not (having the right piece of gear can boost your DPS a lot).

    Then is also raid.io, generally useful sure, but can be a wall even for "entry" M+ keys. Right now requirements for a +10 are absurd when are easy to complete. I don't know, is one of those systems that people should try and understand before requesting it.

    IMO what we need is more BA type of content. Something that we need to prepare and build up for the grand finalle.
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    Last edited by Driavna; 09-23-2020 at 04:50 AM.