Online store prices are outrageously high!

[Divinemights]

I am amazed that people still believing that undercutter must link to the bot fantasy. You got undercutted because the value of item listed is not reflecting the value of market thinks it is. This laughable claims also ignore the fact where you can travel to other realm to buy item then come back to sell on the market board.

For example, you may list an item for 3M but I found same item on other server foe 800k. In this case I have all the bargain power to undercut you as long as item sold is more than 800k then I am profitable. You are forced people to buy an overpriced item but got mad when some one reset it to its actual market price. Really?

Buy low and sell high only works when you are in a closed market but FF14 market is an open market because you can get imports to surprise your domestic, of course it will not works

[Kes13a]

I am amazed that people still believing that undercutter must link to the bot fantasy. You got undercutted because the value of item listed is not reflecting the value of market thinks it is. This laughable claims also ignore the fact where you can travel to other realm to buy item then come back to sell on the market board.

For example, you may list an item for 3M but I found same item on other server foe 800k. In this case I have all the bargain power to undercut you as long as item sold is more than 800k then I am profitable. You are forced people to buy an overpriced item but got mad when some one reset it to its actual market price. Really?

Buy low and sell high only works when you are in a closed market but FF14 market is an open market because you can get imports to surprise your domestic, of course it will not works

Most bots are undercutting by a gil, and yes, people do indeed do that. but most REAL people also sleep, eat, do normal human kind of things. they arent on the market 24/7 undercutting by a gil.

as for importer like you, I know who most of the crafters are in my markets, so when you put a name up from another server, I know for a fact I can sell lower than you and I will. you have zero bargain power because I know that I made the item for less than you likely bought it at. so its usually the "importer" that ends up sucking it up for a lower price than they bought it at if the price is brought down low enough. and since the bots will usually undercut me, well, where does that leave you and teh cleverly imported item?

[linayar]

Instituting a gil cap will do one thing: it'll cause a dramatic influx of bot/alt accounts, which SE has already proven they are largely unwilling to do anything about. They aren't going to stop selling so much, they're just going to find new places to put their money.

Well, the character cap won't increase, so you'll still only have 8 per world, 40 per account max. And if they create more accounts, well that's more money for SE I guess.

Also, if they reduce the cap significantly (along with my proposed retainer change), prices would be lower in general since everyone can hold less money anyway.

[ZattanaWen]

I am amazed that people still believing that undercutter must link to the bot fantasy. You got undercutted because the value of item listed is not reflecting the value of market thinks it is. This laughable claims also ignore the fact where you can travel to other realm to buy item then come back to sell on the market board.

For example, you may list an item for 3M but I found same item on other server foe 800k. In this case I have all the bargain power to undercut you as long as item sold is more than 800k then I am profitable. You are forced people to buy an overpriced item but got mad when some one reset it to its actual market price. Really?

Buy low and sell high only works when you are in a closed market but FF14 market is an open market because you can get imports to surprise your domestic, of course it will not works

I don't assume every undercutter is a bot. For the most part I know who most of them on the server are and losers though some may be, they're human losers.

In fact I didn't even know there was such a thing as a marketboard bot until I found one on my server, and only by researching and then observing/experimentation. In this case, the account itself is very clearly a bot running 24/7, and the pattern of consistently timed undercutting/price adjustment as well as the pattern of playtime by the bot and its alts made it abundantly clear it was all bot-run.

Crafter-bot makes the stuff, and 8 alt accounts rotate in and out 24/7 (only ever one at a time, of course) to sell and undercut what crafter-bot makes. Once you know how it works it could not be more obvious.