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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    The WoW system found a way to accommodate both those willing and unwilling to spend real money, with the added bonus of reducing third-party RMT activity in the process. Greed or no, it's a clever system that almost certainly makes them more money in the long-run, all the while placating players like the OP. If someone wants to spend money, they can. Otherwise, there's an alternative route to the same content for people willing to do a little extra grinding, and blizzard still gets their take. They can even play the game completely on someone else's dime. It's a much more accommodating system, and is a more reasonable format for a subscription based MMO imo.
    Its also a way to screw the playerbase over. WoW tokens are 20.00 each. Which means a person wanting in game gold is paying real money AND Blizzard is getting and extra 5.00 per sale over a regular sub price.

    The value of the token in gold fluctuates depending on the market at that time.

    It isn't "free". Another player is making up the difference for that "free" item. Blizzard became the gold seller themselves. It wasn't to help the player, it was to enrich themselves.

    ...just like every game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    Its also a way to screw the playerbase over. WoW tokens are 20.00 each. Which means a person wanting in game gold is paying real money AND Blizzard is getting and extra 5.00 per sale over a regular sub price.

    The value of the token in gold fluctuates depending on the market at that time.

    It isn't "free". Another player is making up the difference for that "free" item. Blizzard became the gold seller themselves. It wasn't to help the player, it was to enrich themselves.

    ...just like every game.
    I acknowledged most of that in my post. It's nice that you're putting the word "Free" in quotes despite the fact that it hasn't appeared a single time in any of my posts, nor have I ever implied anything was free. At no point does WoW try to mislead you or compel you into buying gold. Players who do so choose to do so fully aware of the conversion rate, and all three parties involved benefit in some way.

    Saying that it 'screws the playerbase over' is extremely silly, particularly in a thread comparing it to some of SEs practices. Screwing the player base would be something like... bloating your shallow crafting system with hundreds of unnecessary reagents, only to turn around and offer expanded bank storage for an additional monthly fee in an already subscription-based game. : )

    But hey, no contortion is too hard when we're trying to say "WoW Bad FF Good". Honk honk.





    Quote Originally Posted by Gameovers View Post
    Doesn't that entire system crash if lets say noone buys the token? People still have to spend money for it to work perfectly, which if you go by this playerbase is still a no go.
    Totally possible, but hasn't happened up to this point (unless SL bombs like BFA xD). There's an enormous market for RMT in MMOs; Many people tend to severely underestimate just how many people are willing to buy Gil/gold. FFXIV wouldn't be filled with thousands of bots if people weren't buying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    Totally possible, but hasn't happened up to this point (unless SL bombs like BFA xD). There's an enormous market for RMT in MMOs; Many people tend to severely underestimate just how many people are willing to buy Gil/gold. FFXIV wouldn't be filled with thousands of bots if people weren't buying.
    xD And yeah you're right about that. Greed is why RMT will never go away in any form so blargh. Tho now I want to ask you.... do you think SL will bomb like BFA? I watched a video and the streamer in question was pissed about the number of changes that are coming to SL. How do you feel about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameovers View Post
    xD And yeah you're right about that. Greed is why RMT will never go away in any form so blargh. Tho now I want to ask you.... do you think SL will bomb like BFA? I watched a video and the streamer in question was pissed about the number of changes that are coming to SL. How do you feel about it?

    Ion is still captain of the ship so to speak so... I think it will. the story, such as it is, has wandered so far off things in recent years, and lost so much of what originally even made it passable, that right now, I just dont think they can save it. its all just making money until they get tired of doing so.
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