Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
I'm not sure Ilya's the main problem with LR. It's certainly not the optimal strat and rougher on uptime, but it's fairly safe and easy to understand. PF's problem there would be greeding on orbs or lack of focus and groups that can't get through with Ilya are probably going to wipe non-stop on other strats too.

It's a mechanic with a whole number of ways to wipe your entire team at a single slip up and it's quite hard to see who causes the wipe. It only takes one player being greedy, unfocused or just not that good at difficult mechanics to make it a wipefest. I like it as a mechanic, it's satisfying to see it go like clockwork with 8 people, but I can understand why it's a nightmare in PF.
It's not safe at all. Pretty much all of the responsibility is on orbs. Then inconsistent timings + greed is a recipe for disaster.

You have to go out and around the orb fast, otherwise you get hit by the cone or you change the orb trajectory too much. The trajectory is different if you go around the orb on the left side vs right side.
The rotating orb has a timing issue where if you rotate too fast the orb can catch up to your tower and if you rotate too slow you might not reach tower.
Even if you rotate correctly, the two orbs reach tower at inconsistent timings.

The timings are not consistent between two pulls even in the same party with the same orb/chain split.