Online store prices are outrageously high!

[JohnSpawnVFX]

I feel like we need to keep this for every time ridiculous responses to these threads pop up. Well said.

Why would we keep yet another ridiculous response?

Responses like this just make people come across as entitled and spoiled individuals who need everything to either be free or dirt cheap, because they don't want to be forced to make budgetary choices unless absolutely necessary. (i.e.: I can't sub the game or I won't be able to pay the bills)

They're optional items, optional DLC, optional upgrades. Don't want to pay for them? Then don't. /closethread

[SenorPatty]

I feel like we need to keep this for every time ridiculous responses to these threads pop up. Well said.

Like, omg, I so agree with you. I remember buying ARR and not only I had to buy HW to progress but SE totally twisted my arm and made me buy the knight outfits cuz without them, I couldn't get to Ishgard. Then Stormblood came and I couldn't believe SE gated the trip to Kugane behind the Far Eastern set. What a soulless company, nickel and diming me like this. Don't even get me started on Shb's most egregious move: SE said that if I don't get their digital collector's edition, my character would level at a quarter's rate than everyone else.

Thank goodness for companies like EA. Their mtx is totally optional and they make games that will never twist your arm into buying their mtx stuff just to progress decently. I really like how everything in their shop costs next to nothing. Why can't SE be like this? I tell ya, there's something definitely wrong when a company can do the right thing by charging monthly fees for retainers but does the wrong thing when everything else CLEARLY and ABSOLUTELY impacts the game very badly.

[Kes13a]

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[JTF-Taru]

No. Learn to budget. If you can't do that then wait for sales. If that's still too much for you, then your issues aren't exactly SE problem but your own.

No, the issue is with SE. The items are simply far too expensive. When something is massively over-priced, you don't 'budget' for it. You point out it's a rip-off, don't buy it and talk to people about how it's a massive rip-off.

If you went to the shop and they charged you £10 for a loaf of bread and you complained about it and someone told you to just budget, you'd think they were being ridiculous. This is no different.

DLC has been around long enough in video games for people to gauge what is and isn't reasonable and these are far above what you'd expect to pay for what they are.

[Kewitt]

Wait for the sale. But sadlly there is nothing in the store that should be more then a $1...

Really how many people actively play the game about 800k
I'm not paying $25 for a mount. That is basically a retecture of something already in the game.
Even if it took a week to do tweak it. Which it doesn't 1 person lets say $40/hour x 40 $1600 to make it just right... with meeting and commities and everything.. lets say it cost 2k.
I personally thing a lot more people would pay $1 few that pay $25..

But they see value because a few people do pay $25 so they think that is the going rate.
and lets face it 1,000/800,000 that's still $25,000 vs hoping 25k people pay for it.

I honestly think there shouldn't be anything in the cash shop you can't get in game. Make them time/gil/untradable currancy sinks.
$10 a month time 5 months to get a mount is $50 vs $25...

[SenorPatty]

If you went to the shop and they charged you £10 for a loaf of bread and you complained about it and someone told you to just budget, you'd think they were being ridiculous. This is no different.

If I went to a shop and get charged for 10 dollars, that's me asking for it because they typically display prices for food they sell. That means I knowingly took that bread that costs 10 dollars and brought it to the shelf. My choice
Secondly, if I didn't like those prices, I'd just...leave the store and go to another one that sells cheaper? Duh.

"But what if it's like, the only store in your neighborhood?"

Omg omg omg, um....oh i know! I'll just...not buy the bread and live on something else. *Cue mind explosion*

[lolicon09]

No, the issue is with SE. The items are simply far too expensive. When something is massively over-priced, you don't 'budget' for it. You point out it's a rip-off, don't buy it and talk to people about how it's a massive rip-off.

If you went to the shop and they charged you £10 for a loaf of bread and you complained about it and someone told you to just budget, you'd think they were being ridiculous. This is no different.

DLC has been around long enough in video games for people to gauge what is and isn't reasonable and these are far above what you'd expect to pay for what they are.

A store, as the business it is, has the whole right to put the price they want to the products they sell. At the same time i, as a client, have the whole right to decide IF i want to pay said price or not. If i consider that price too high for what the product offers, then i just go to a different store and/or choose a different/similar product with a better price. That IS how you send the message to any company; The less their product sells, the faster it gets a better price and/or offers more for said price

[Kes13a]

No, the issue is with SE. The items are simply far too expensive. When something is massively over-priced, you don't 'budget' for it. You point out it's a rip-off, don't buy it and talk to people about how it's a massive rip-off.

If you went to the shop and they charged you £10 for a loaf of bread and you complained about it and someone told you to just budget, you'd think they were being ridiculous. This is no different.

DLC has been around long enough in video games for people to gauge what is and isn't reasonable and these are far above what you'd expect to pay for what they are.

You are not comparing apples to apples. you need food to live. there is nothing in the store NEEDED to play the game. how is that a difficult concept to master? So yes, it is completely different. If you WANT something that is optional, as in not absolutely required, then being told to budget for said item is a completely reasonable response. If you personally think the price is excessive.. do not buy it. simple answer.

If the prices were "far above what you'd expect to pay" then few would buy them and they would have to reconsider their pricing. The obvious fact that the market obviously supports charging what they do, is evidence itself that the prices are not "far above" what people using the shop are expecting.

the reasoning that the fault is with SE is faulty. IF anything, the fault lies with people using the store. SE is a business, they tend to want to make income. If they were a charity, then you would have a point, but they are not.

[Violet_Galaxy]

No, the issue is with SE. The items are simply far too expensive. When something is massively over-priced, you don't 'budget' for it. You point out it's a rip-off, don't buy it and talk to people about how it's a massive rip-off.

If you went to the shop and they charged you £10 for a loaf of bread and you complained about it and someone told you to just budget, you'd think they were being ridiculous. This is no different.

DLC has been around long enough in video games for people to gauge what is and isn't reasonable and these are far above what you'd expect to pay for what they are.

You're comparing apples to oranges. Buying a loaf of bread for £10 IS ridiculous and it's really not something an adult needs to say/think aloud. It's a gimme that said adult should shop around and seek a better deal in the market; to think otherwise shows that your childish and aren't equipped for the real world. There's only one Mogstation. It has no competition in Mogstation item sales (as SE is the sole owner), therefore they control Mogstation sales.

Honestly, I'm bewildered that we're actually comparing sales of necessities to digital wants.

[Krotoan]

No, the issue is with SE. The items are simply far too expensive. When something is massively over-priced, you don't 'budget' for it. You point out it's a rip-off, don't buy it and talk to people about how it's a massive rip-off.

"Far too expensive" for you. You have the problem. The market is there for people buying it at it's current pricepoint. That is what sets the price, not what you personally want to pay for it. What you are outraged about paying once, EVER for your character, many average people spend on 1-10 minute experiences. You can buy a starbucks drink.. or have a new emote for your character. You can get a pretty nice dinner.. or you can have a 4 person mount that you get to use until you stop your sub. Perspective is important as well

DLC has been around long enough in video games for people to gauge what is and isn't reasonable and these are far above what you'd expect to pay for what they are.

Except provably not. Many other (just as popular) games actually charge MORE for less. Considering FFXIV is mostly designed to have maybe 1 character per server (I'm not saying you can't have alts, just that you can experience pretty much everything the game has to offer on one character), the price per item applying to one character is very reasonable.

But sadlly there is nothing in the store that should be more then a $1...

Because? Please explain beyond "I don't think it should cost more than.. "

Really how many people actively play the game about 800k
I'm not paying $25 for a mount. That is basically a retecture of something already in the game.
Even if it took a week to do tweak it. Which it doesn't 1 person lets say $40/hour x 40 $1600 to make it just right... with meeting and commities and everything.. lets say it cost 2k.
I personally thing a lot more people would pay $1 few that pay $25..

Except it takes one person to conceptualize it, one person to model it, one person to texture it, several people to test and implement it, etc. etc.

Your concept of "I bet more people would buy it for a dollar.. " .. well yes.. but it would take 25 times as many people to make the same amount of money, not adjusting for transaction fees and so on. They don't just slap prices on stuff, they research what the market is (check other games acceptable prices) and figure out at what pricepoint they'll make the most money.

But they see value because a few people do pay $25 so they think that is the going rate.
and lets face it 1,000/800,000 that's still $25,000 vs hoping 25k people pay for it.

If enough people pay a price.. that is the going rate. That is how a luxury market works.
And again.. market research is done. A company of this size does not "hope".

I honestly think there shouldn't be anything in the cash shop you can't get in game. Make them time/gil/untradable currancy sinks.
$10 a month time 5 months to get a mount is $50 vs $25...

Then there wouldn't be an incentive to use the cash shop and the whole purpose it was made for would be bunk. Therefore you wouldn't have most of the items in it since they were cash shop exclusives made by an entirely separate team created for that sole purpose.