Do you think the Mentor system could be fixed by lifting most restrictions to it?

[SenorPatty]

More people having access to mentorship isn't what's going to fix it, since the core of the problem is essentially two things: the crown and the mount. It's far, far less the "prestige" of being a mentor and more about slapping glam next to their names and having a shiny flying horse to boot. Remove those and watch people drop out of it like flies.

[wereotter]

More people having access to mentorship isn't what's going to fix it, since the core of the problem is essentially two things: the crown and the mount. It's far, far less the "prestige" of being a mentor and more about slapping glam next to their names and having a shiny flying horse to boot. Remove those and watch people drop out of it like flies.

I agree with this.

I stopped flagging myself as a mentor specifically because of all the people who are only there for exactly these reasons. If the mentor status became a thing where you were known as a person who is actually willing to help with no reward, I'd consider actually getting my status back again. But as is, when you have people who just want a crown, and who are trying to farm the mount (and drop from the roulette when its anything harder than a levequest or leveling dungeon) I don't want to be associated.

[Reinha]

I stopped flagging myself as a mentor specifically because of all the people who are only there for exactly these reasons. If the mentor status became a thing where you were known as a person who is actually willing to help with no reward, I'd consider actually getting my status back again. But as is, when you have people who just want a crown, and who are trying to farm the mount (and drop from the roulette when its anything harder than a levequest or leveling dungeon) I don't want to be associated.

Ironically, this is treating the mentor icon as a status symbol. Something which people wearing the crown are often accused of doing despite them being well aware of how much people look down upon mentors.

[ForteNightshade]

More people having access to mentorship isn't what's going to fix it, since the core of the problem is essentially two things: the crown and the mount. It's far, far less the "prestige" of being a mentor and more about slapping glam next to their names and having a shiny flying horse to boot. Remove those and watch people drop out of it like flies.

This is precisely the problem. I remember getting into an argument with someone way back when Mentor replaced over the mount. He insisted Mentor Roulette needed something to reward the people who put in effort to help and it's unfair they get nothing. Which misses the entire point of the system. It shouldn't ever be able rewarding you but you just generally wanting to be helpful.

Rewards can be a good incentive. If you had a mentor roulette for ex trials with an amazing reward you can bet that mentors would be putting in a lot of effort to teach sprouts the fights. The problem is neither the rewards nor the mentors. It's the way the current mentor roulette is setup. There's such a huge delta in time spent for reward in the current roulette that it highly promotes dropping some content. We could completely ignore human psychology and just go with the "all mentors should be a flawless image of selflessness" or we could just implement a better set of roulettes.

They would not. I guarantee many people who kick new players who aren't getting the mechanics—possibly after a single attempt. Because people rarely queue into EX primals directly, it'd be absurdly easy to kick someone and then have their friend snipe the queue.

[EaMett]

They would not. I guarantee many people who kick new players who aren't getting the mechanics—possibly after a single attempt. Because people rarely queue into EX primals directly, it'd be absurdly easy to kick someone and then have their friend snipe the queue.

This sounds really extreme. You would need to be able to vote someone out for one. Then have someone willing to hop into your instance whenever. Then be able to rinse and repeat this enough to make it a trend. And this would only be a subset of the current 1% of mentors that drop ex fights anyways. That's even more unlikely than people dropping and taking the 30mn penalty.
In reality, a vast majority of Ex trials in mentor roulette are ARR instances (~80%). The great hunt which is pretty easy is also a good chunk (~10%). You occasionally get HW stuff. And usually, it's the likes of Ravana, Thordan and Nidhogg. Very rarely do you get anything else because players know to use DF by then. Almost all of these can be carried with echo. Even more so if you have multiple mentors. I wouldn't expect this to change, drop rates would in effect be lower than they currently are imo.