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  1. #21
    Player
    ErryK's Avatar
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Ragnarok
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    You should play a Job if you want to look like that Job. It depreciates the value of Job(s) to move their unique glamours over to other Jobs, and makes it less of a draw to play any specific Job.

    Overall, a shortsighted idea, and a request always made by people who can't think past what they want and consider the overall harm it will cause.
    Well, first of all, Striking and Maiming share the exact same coat with different sleeves as is...

    Second, what class fantasy? There's not a single plate of armor on that coat to begin with...

    Thirdly, we've seen what they do in order to release glamour for all jobs, they'll just make a new Lv. 1 glamour either by completing a duty or by crafting. You are blowing this way out of proportion.
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  2. #22
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    Cetek14's Avatar
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    Claire Oreiro
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    Lich
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    No, it would ruin immersion. Now go tank with your frog suit or heal in swimsuit.
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  3. #23
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    Sumea's Avatar
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    Duel Macska
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 76
    I am for and against.
    I think class specific relic gear so, SCH only etc should stay as such. These gears are exactly for the specific class and should stay as such, if you want to look any iconic iteration of your class or mix parts, it still tells what you are from immediate glance, even if the weapon is hidden.

    I think cross class armor from warriors to mages etc should be case-by-case basis, it should need a class that still can equip that armor leveled up on your character, and possibly a system where you "reduce" the gear into zero stat glam piece but still retains the level limit, much like you can use craftsman /gatherer gear as glamour, level restrictions still applying. I feel the list should be curated, class specific gear being definitely out even if SCH has best bottoms ever and I want em on every class, I also don't. On other side; if you want to look certain way, play certain way is a valid argument too... I rarely wish to cross class glamour stuff that I already said I am against. Yeah I want my SCH socs on WHM but I also don't. I am not a in absolute conflict myself at all times, but I be.

    Weapons should definitely stay restricted to class. This will not work, no glamouring axes to poles or anything such. The game already has wide array of every weapon type to use one you like.

    Though; Make lightning's blade work also for gunblades. IIRC it still is just a paladin sword.

    Because of popularity of all the different nier pieces, this could even be, for now, just specific to the nier gear pieces.

    My thinking is:
    To get what you want to look like, you'd have to play compatible class to increase likelihood of winning the rolls for it. Even if you win by greed, you still need to have the specific class in max level just as marker you are "worthy of the gear" and then have a way to pay or do or pray something. This gear reduction will now force you to get the piece again if you want it for stats though, or if the gear is still good piece for your alt class you would think twice of "discarding it" as a gear piece.
    Same could be done to sky pirates sets, some people liked those etc.

    Limited would retain class fantasy, Make players have to make choices and keep it so that class specific stuff is good.

    Also I saw a male mi'qote in 2B outfit because of "class fantasy" - Duel is already a female because males were in my eyes that incompatible with healer class fantasy. What class fantasy?
    But, there is some of it... Just inconsistent.
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    Last edited by Sumea; 09-11-2020 at 08:53 PM.

  4. #24
    Player Gothicshark's Avatar
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    Marielle Sansoleil
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sumea View Post

    Weapons should definitely stay restricted to class. This will not work, no glamouring axes to poles or anything such. The game already has wide array of every weapon type to use one you like.
    I'm not going to say I'm for or against, but I do want to point out, on the cash shop you can get a scythe, it is the same scythe for 5 classes. Black Mage, White Mage, Dragoon, Warrior, and Dark Knight.



    Basically the right Glam, and this weapon, you'll not know what class they are unless you look at their info.
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  5. #25
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    Awful Sucker
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    They won't, even with this dumb notion of class/job fantasy. I say dumb because if you realise, the bulk of players rarely ever glamour a whole armour set. They might glamour one-2 pieces.

    Players these days from what they wear don't seem to care a lot about this class fantasy nonsense.
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  6. #26
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    Haruka_R's Avatar
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    Fenix Starfire
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ClickOnce View Post
    Players these days from what they wear don't seem to care a lot about this class fantasy nonsense.
    Right? They'd rather wear a knitted sweater and fuzzy carbuncle slippers.
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  7. #27
    Player Veis_Alveare's Avatar
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    Veis Alve'are
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 70
    I love how everyone is all "gender unlock ALL THE THINGS!!!1" but then somehow this is a contentious issue.
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  8. #28
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    Basically the right Glam, and this weapon, you'll not know what class they are unless you look at their info.
    Or you could look at their battle stance which will tell you which class they actually are.

    Also, giving the scythe to a few specific classes whose stances are compatible with it still isn't quite the same thing as letting anyone glamour it over anything. How's it going to go when an archer or monk tries to use it?

    (Plus that technical issue of only glamouring items of the same type even when there's no class restrictions. We can't even glamour wands over staffs because they're considered different item types even when equippable by the same class.)
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  9. #29
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    Verdandir Sadi
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    I'm fine with making all gear universal GLAM. If you earn it, you should be able to wear it as glam. A 'class silhouette' has not been a thing for years now, outside of the Artifact Armours, which should stay as they are. If you can have tanks in Mascot Suits, healers in Bikinis, dps in Cozy Sweaters or Holiday Choir Robes, there's no reason the rest of the gear should stay locked at all. ZERO REASON. 'But muh immersion' is a bunk argument because they already supply glam for COMPLETELY non-fighting outfits. Wedding dresses, butler suits, maid uniforms? And you all want to get prickly because a WHM might want to look like they're in heavy armour? I'm laughing.

    Further, in other regions there are crafter/gatherer gear that is SOLD as lvl1 Glam Gear only. So when are we getting those, thx?

    Weapons need to stay locked purely because each weapon TYPE is coded to be held and act a particular way.
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  10. #30
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    Vice Shark
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    PSA: Replica Sky outfits have already set the precedent for shared job glam. Feel free to appeal for more shared job outfits
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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