Gath and his concern for lack of LS competition.

[zaviermhigo]

I'd be ok for ls competition, but I feel like people are dicks in this game, yeah people were dicks in XI too, but people had something to be a dick about in that game, this game NOTHING IS THAT IMPORTANT, and you have people acting like dicks over it. The average ls on my server is still made up of people in multiple ls, so you also create that awkward moment when you go to compete for claim with one ls and realize you're being a dick to your other ls.

Idk I think the game would have to have important content to fight over, I'm not going to fight over some crappy nm that drops a 30 weapon, nor would I even fight over a high tier nm in this game that drops a 50 weapon, just isn't worth it for now.

I still love Gath though, you guys are haters

[Gath]

I'd be ok for ls competition, but I feel like people are dicks in this game, yeah people were dicks in XI too, but people had something to be a dick about in that game, this game NOTHING IS THAT IMPORTANT, and you have people acting like dicks over it. The average ls on my server is still made up of people in multiple ls, so you also create that awkward moment when you go to compete for claim with one ls and realize you're being a dick to your other ls.

Idk I think the game would have to have important content to fight over, I'm not going to fight over some crappy nm that drops a 30 weapon, nor would I even fight over a high tier nm in this game that drops a 50 weapon, just isn't worth it for now.

I still love Gath though, you guys are haters

The whole concept of this is not only the LS competition but for something that is worthwhile to have the competition. It's healthy and people just assumed that Gath was talking strictly about HNMs.

Gath was talking about anything that was worthwhile that sparked competition be it good or bad. People never had to do any of these things, they had options. MMOs don't force people to do content. Gath loved Sky, Sea, ZNMs, etc. You didn't have to do them, there was some competition between LS's in different aspect for pop item NMs, but nothing bad came out of it, it helps stop a large influx of those pop items in the game all in all. 4 hour spawns with multiple LS's. It made things interesting.

Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

[Arcell]

But PvP is obviously about teamwork, actually, it's the edge of teamwork. Here's there's no static strategy as it is in, for example, killing Ifrit. You can't even compare fighting a dead thing versus another human being. Doing 1vs1 between different classes is a horrible example. 8vs8 would be the natural LSvsLS competition. For 1vs1, meeting people of your own class would be the most "normal" thing to do.

Fighting an NPC is different than fighting another person but there can be modifiers that would not be present in PvP. In PvP you're fighting other players who are roughly as strong as other players. The difference generally comes in with skill but I'm talking just stats and whatnot here. There is a cap that players can reach, same as any other players. Generally you know what to expect from another player, outside of a few tricks that clever players may use. Strategies take this into account and in general at a certain point, numbers win.

In PvE however, the devs can design something far exceeding the cap of a players power. They can create one thing that an entire team must struggle to take down. This is where PvE, if done well, can become far more difficult than any PvP. Just because you're fighting a computer controlled entity doesn't mean it doesn't have a few tricks up its sleeve. This game may not be a shining example of it but the enemy AI from some games is really quite exceptional and keeps you on your toes.