Really hope next savage tier is delayed.

[xxvaynxx]

Do you even try to do week 1 clears because it sounds like you don't?

Most likely not but I wouldn't try to convince them, can't really debate with someone about this that doesn't really raid at all/or has only cleared the first fight of a tier and probably by the time where you're probably already decked out in full tome gear or higher.

They have a right to give their opinion but it will always be lesser than the people that actually do this type of content.
It'll be like me throwing out opinions about crafters when I don't even craft.

[linayar]

They have a right to give their opinion but it will always be lesser than the people that actually do this type of content.

That's only if what I say requires me to do that type of content, which is not true. If I'm telling you how to heal in Savage, but I don't do Savage, then you'd have a point. But I don't need to do Savage to tell you that Savage isn't going anywhere once released. The pressure that you have is self-inflicted, and not caused by the game. I don't think FFXIV even has any achievement for clearing Savage first or among the first, not even an achievement for clearing during the tier it's released.

And, as has been said, it affects more than Savage raiders, so it's also a moot point saying non-Savage raider's opinion is "lesser" as if that means anything.

There are even Savage raiders who don't want it delayed, so even there, your comment becomes even more pointless.

[xxvaynxx]

That's only if what I say requires me to do that type of content, which is not true. If I'm telling you how to heal in Savage, but I don't do Savage, then you'd have a point. But I don't need to do Savage to tell you that Savage isn't going anywhere once release. The pressure that you have is self-inflicted, and not caused the game.

And, as has been said, it affects more than Savage raiders, so it's also a moot point saying non-Savage raider's opinion is "lesser" as if that means anything.

I'm talking about getting ready for week 1 prog not savage itself, probably should have made that more clear...though...you also don't do savage or rather the only first floor so my point stands no matter how you take it actually, unless you can prove me wrong that you cleared more floors? I'll gladly take that L and shut up.
It's not a moot point either because its true. You don't do savage or like...only the first fight because you're not good enough to do the other ones, your opinions are lesser. You don't have to worry about preparation because you don't week 1 prog or WR.

So again, your opinions are lesser than actual raider that do raid.
And how does it affect crafting? they don't have to push back to mats that come with the patch. The mats are bought with the previous tier tomes, they can still uncap it. Its not like they have some rule or can't change it.

[linayar]

I'm talking about getting ready for week 1 prog not savage itself, probably should have made that more clear...though...you also don't do savage or rather the only first floor so my point stands no matter how you take it actually, unless you can prove me wrong that you cleared more floors? I'll gladly take that L and shut up.
It's not a moot point either because its true. You don't do savage or like...only the first fight because you're not good enough to do the other ones, your opinions are lesser. You don't have to worry about preparation because you don't week 1 prog or WR.

So again, your opinions are lesser than actual raider that do raid.

No, because I said that it affects non-Savage raiders, which is true. So, how is it lesser of an opinion? If, by lesser, you mean you don't care about it, then I could also not care about your opinion. Does that make your opinion lesser now too?

And how does it affect crafting? they don't have to push back to mats that come with the patch. The mats are bought with the current tier tomes, they can still uncap it. Its not like they have some rule or can't change it.

The current tier tomes are brought along with Savage, and I don't think they would change that.

[xxvaynxx]

Yeah, previous tomes. Which dont get uncapped until new tomes release, which dont come out until savage releases.

Yeah and they can uncap it when 5.4 hits. There is no reason not too since the ilv goes up.
Everything from the 5.2 tomes is useless, more so for the people that raid and heck, even the people doing 24man since...you get the upgrades right? I don't remember.

Because not to be rude, obviously most people and myself asking for this is to prepare for savage.
Its pretty much a pointless wish granted if they DON'T uncap the tomes, because we need the crafted items.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Yeah and they can uncap it when 5.4 hits. There is no reason not too since the ilv goes up.
Everything from the 5.2 tomes is useless, more so for the people that raid and heck, even the people doing 24man since...you get the upgrades right? I don't remember.

Because not to be rude, obviously most people and myself asking for this is to prepare for savage.
Its pretty much a pointless wish granted if they DON'T uncap the tomes, because we need the crafted items.

Yeah, they always uncap current tomes when the next tier increases. You still wouldn't get that on the msq patch.

[MarniDawg]

That's only if what I say requires me to do that type of content, which is not true. If I'm telling you how to heal in Savage, but I don't do Savage, then you'd have a point. But I don't need to do Savage to tell you that Savage isn't going anywhere once released.

Yeah I didn't think you did week 1. Not even worth having a discussion with someone who had no idea what they are talking about.