Disappointed that private individuals can purchase housing plots in 5.35

[MilitaryVet123]

You can use the garden or decorate in an FC only if the leader lets you, probably with restrictions. You can use a personal house any way you want. As-is, I've been in my FC house about 3 times, just to see what it looks like, but I have no other reason to be there.

You can always join another FC to gain access to content you want.

[Luna-M]

You can always join another FC to gain access to content you want.

Assuming FC leader allow that, it not very common unless you're close to them and or have their trust.
As a FC leader myself I only allow decoration privileges to one of my officers which i known for years.
Garden I allow others upon request but generally it only me who has the interest in it.

[MilitaryVet123]

Assuming FC leader allow that, it not very common unless you're close to them and or have their trust.
As a FC leader myself I only allow decoration privileges to one of my officers which i known for years.
Garden I allow others upon request but generally it only me who has the interest in it.

That is unfortunate but there are plenty of FCs that allow members to decorate.

[Kes13a]

That is unfortunate but there are plenty of FCs that allow members to decorate.

I would have to see proof of that. Most FC's will have a theme so allowing all members to place or decorate randomly would end up looking disordered and a disaster. Now, certainly, I can see some that may not care, but I do not believe it would be that common. Use of the FC house yes, get your own room yes, the ability to decorate and/or remove whatever you wanted, I suspect is going to be limited

[SavishSalacious]

The last time new housing wards were available, it was limited to FCs at first and everything was fine. On all but the most populated servers plots remained available for individuals when it's their turn. Now, however, it seems that FCs need to compete with private individuals for housing. Not only is this unjust as it rewards rich individual players with huge amounts of gil and punish FCs with mostly casual players trying to amass their gil together to purchase a house together, we also cannot forget that individual housing are intentionally limited.

They cannot use airships or submersibles because SE decided that there needs to be a penalty to individual housing to disincentivize private players from purchasing them and nudge them towards grouping together in free company housing to enjoy the social aspect of the game. Private housing is anti-social, while free company housing is social. This is one reason why we should be prioritizing free company housing before personal housing.

Furthermore, allowing private housing to go first means it disproportionately rewards private crafters and/or gatherers who have the means to make the most gil, which is unfair to players who are more casual. It might not seem apparent why this is the case at first, but consider this scenario: a medium housing plot goes for sale at 17.5M gil, which is a huge sum of gil for all but the most dedicated of players. A private crafter or gatherer can easily afford that gil, and veteran players who have played this game for years can easily afford that even without crafting/gathering. But to casual players who play this game for a few hours per week, that amount of gil is an extreme cost. Now, an FC with 10 casual players can afford that cost by paying 1.75M gil each, which is more on the affordable side that even most casual players can afford. So if SE allows private individuals to purchase housing at the same time as FCs, that means more casual players who may not have that much gil are disadvantaged while players who are already very rich are advantaged.

Finally, most private individuals already belong to an FC. They already enjoy the content that FC housing brings: such as gardening, airships, and decoration. Allowing them to get another house just for themselves is unfair to FCs who do not have a house yet.

I hope SE will seriously reconsider this decision.

Why are houses not just instanced? This would SAVE SO MUCH TROUBLE. I know it has been asked before, but the "why" it hasn't been done, has never been answered.

[MsMisato]

Why are houses not just instanced? This would SAVE SO MUCH TROUBLE. I know it has been asked before, but the "why" it hasn't been done, has never been answered.

If you haven't figured it out its the best way to get the a person to stick with a sub. Limit something and put a timer on it so if they cancel their sub, they have a set number of days to return or they loose it. Given the housing is a finite number,you have somewhat of a guarantee that you are going to have a base number of subs. Make it unlimited and there is no incentive to stay subbed.

[Evrardoux]

The last time new housing wards were available, it was limited to FCs at first and everything was fine. On all but the most populated servers plots remained available for individuals when it's their turn. Now, however, it seems that FCs need to compete with private individuals for housing. Not only is this unjust as it rewards rich individual players with huge amounts of gil and punish FCs with mostly casual players trying to amass their gil together to purchase a house together, we also cannot forget that individual housing are intentionally limited.

They cannot use airships or submersibles because SE decided that there needs to be a penalty to individual housing to disincentivize private players from purchasing them and nudge them towards grouping together in free company housing to enjoy the social aspect of the game. Private housing is anti-social, while free company housing is social. This is one reason why we should be prioritizing free company housing before personal housing.

Furthermore, allowing private housing to go first means it disproportionately rewards private crafters and/or gatherers who have the means to make the most gil, which is unfair to players who are more casual. It might not seem apparent why this is the case at first, but consider this scenario: a medium housing plot goes for sale at 17.5M gil, which is a huge sum of gil for all but the most dedicated of players. A private crafter or gatherer can easily afford that gil, and veteran players who have played this game for years can easily afford that even without crafting/gathering. But to casual players who play this game for a few hours per week, that amount of gil is an extreme cost. Now, an FC with 10 casual players can afford that cost by paying 1.75M gil each, which is more on the affordable side that even most casual players can afford. So if SE allows private individuals to purchase housing at the same time as FCs, that means more casual players who may not have that much gil are disadvantaged while players who are already very rich are advantaged.

Finally, most private individuals already belong to an FC. They already enjoy the content that FC housing brings: such as gardening, airships, and decoration. Allowing them to get another house just for themselves is unfair to FCs who do not have a house yet.

I hope SE will seriously reconsider this decision.

Extremely valid point, but couldn't they just reduce the price of the plots this time around?

[ZattanaWen]

I would have to see proof of that. Most FC's will have a theme so allowing all members to place or decorate randomly would end up looking disordered and a disaster. Now, certainly, I can see some that may not care, but I do not believe it would be that common. Use of the FC house yes, get your own room yes, the ability to decorate and/or remove whatever you wanted, I suspect is going to be limited

I've been in a lot of FCs, and there's no single standard. Each was run so differently that I still can't really even determine what "plenty of FCs" do.

That said, I've never seen one that just let anyone decorate a house. I've been in a few that let several people do it, and it was never a problem. For the most part, nobody really even wanted to, and those that did maybe just did minor tweaks here and there, or installed a Wheel Stand because nobody else thought to, or just wanted to set up a new thing they got. I'm sure there are FC's that have tried this and had it blow up in their face. But there are a number of ways players can screw an FC, and this is a minor one.

I was in one where only the top two in the FC could decorate the house, and they just never did so. The house was largely a disaster. I hated going there. They'd have had little to lose letting at least one more rank (which was only a few more people because they also didn't really promote) have decoration privileges.

[ShariusTC]

like i said before if a FC cannot competitive with an individually player for a house then they do not deserve to get a house, seriously, as a player that own a solo FC and get my FC house all by myself, i never understand the cry of other FC that cannot get a FC house even they have more member than mine, just stop to be stinky and give bunch of your FC member a right to purchase house, then send them out for the mission

there is no point to limit the new house buyig for FC before other player, that sound dumb

[ZattanaWen]

like i said before if a FC cannot competitive with an individually player for a house then they do not deserve to get a house, seriously, as a player that own a solo FC and get my FC house all by myself, i never understand the cry of other FC that cannot get a FC house even they have more member than mine, just stop to be stinky and give bunch of your FC member a right to purchase house, then send them out for the mission

there is no point to limit the new house buyig for FC before other player, that sound dumb

FC houses serve a purpose. Solo player houses do not. FCs should absolutely get first dibs.