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    Nekaru_Infitima's Avatar
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    Nekaru Infitima
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    MMO Shenannigans In-Character (Possible Spoilers)

    So uhh not sure if this would be better suited here or in Lore, but it's here.

    So as an artist, I always get scenes in my head (even if I don't draw them out). Lately playing the game I've gotten a few scenes where the quest just doesn't make sense with the fact it's an MMO.

    1. Titan and the fetch quest that makes you want to kill the company of heroes. You all know it, the dreaded wine quest.

    Mental scene: "I got the wine!" -crickets, no people around, everything destroyed- "Uhhh... guys?" -Titan off in the distance destroying things-

    2. Leveling things like botany, and such. This can be inserted into any dramatic scene but I picture Heavensward.

    Mental scene:
    "Were you not supposed to be fighting my son?" - Midgardsormr who follows you.
    "Nidhogg can wait, I just need one more high-quality chamomile!"


    What about you guys? Any quests you've been or parts of the story you've done that just doesn't work narratively with MMO mechanics without being hilarious?
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    Name Meaning:
    Nekaru = Neko + Hikaru
    Infitima = Infinity + Ultima

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    Endless head nodding. It's even recognized by characters.
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    Duty finder for a lot of fights.

    Hi 3 other people who were not on Cid's airship going to Garuda's lair but totally were on that airship as there is no other way to enter it at that period of time.

    Why hello 7 other people who got through the slyphlands at that exact moment Ramuh decided to challenge me for deciding his judgement

    Spoilers for HW/SB/Sub

    Hi 7 other people who all absorbed an eye from Hreasvelgr to take on Nidhogg's shade

    Howdy ho my 7 fellow adventurers, Tsukiyomi is looking rather evil today I'm so glad you were using that invisible cloak to hide until after she was summoned and we start fighting

    Lali-hiden-ho 7 random people who somehow climed a floating sin eater infested mountain to face off against Vauthry you sure do have impeccable timing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    Duty finder for a lot of fights.
    This, arguably, recently got an in-game explanation!
    Our soul is a fragment of Azim, the Fourteenth Convocation member, who traveled the world righting wrongs, and explicitly had the ability to call allies to her side in times of need...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    This, arguably, recently got an in-game explanation!
    Our soul is a fragment of Azim, the Fourteenth Convocation member, who traveled the world righting wrongs, and explicitly had the ability to call allies to her side in times of need...
    Not actually an explanation for us

    Azem was our past presundered self and we are currently 9/14, we only gained the ability to call forth allies with the fight with Elidibus after getting the Azem memory stone, at no other point have we demonstrated such a power of calling, they are just there and poof not, no NPC comments on the spontaneous allies coming and going when by all accounts we are alone, Final Steps had Hresvelgr watching, you'd think he comment on such a power at least once.

    I think our power to call forth allies from nowhere from this point can be explained away by the Azem stone etc but prior to that, nope not going to fly, when it is clear we are alone and the only possible beings able to be at that point in time right there is us and a few Npcs then that is what happened story wise.

    Again everything prior to the Azem memory stone is just story/game segregation but after it is introduced you can feasibly weave it in that you can call 7 other people to your side at any given point.
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    Cid: "Listen I need you to find 23 other people, no more and no less than that, to go into this tower."
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    PGY-3 Family Medicine resident.
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    The scene with Lyse training with you atop Rhalgr´s Reach. I guess it would fit if you were a Monk or some job that wields a solid weapon, I was a lalafel White Mage.

    Any trial that has the boss introduction before unlocking it:
    "Fight me, Warrior of Light!"
    "Ok, but first let me wait for 3/7 other companions"
    "Fair enough"

    Also, as a White Mage, which admitedly must do some degree of dps, being recognized as THE eikon slayer when most of my contribution is healing the ones that do the killing, feels like stealing the glory from my companions.
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    Player Gothicshark's Avatar
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    Marielle Sansoleil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima View Post
    ...

    What about you guys? Any quests you've been or parts of the story you've done that just doesn't work narratively with MMO mechanics without being hilarious?

    Sort of spoilers,
    the Nier:Automata quest and Anogg & Konogg, they break the 4th wall, you reply to it in acknowledgment, and then do their quest as they tell you too.


    there are a bunch of moments when the game realizes how silly it can be and comments on it.
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    Last edited by Gothicshark; 09-05-2020 at 03:07 AM.

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    Desia Demarseille
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Pretty much every time you respond to an NPC, your character emotes and moves their mouth. But sometimes I think the NPC should just stand there a bit dumb founded and be like "Uhh, I saw your mouth moving, but, uhm, nothin' came out." Then to turn to a nearby NPC and be like "Right? That wasnt just me", where they agree too and say "Yeah. not a single word."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    Not actually an explanation for us

    Azem was our past presundered self and we are currently 9/14, we only gained the ability to call forth allies with the fight with Elidibus after getting the Azem memory stone, at no other point have we demonstrated such a power of calling, they are just there and poof not, no NPC comments on the spontaneous allies coming and going when by all accounts we are alone, Final Steps had Hresvelgr watching, you'd think he comment on such a power at least once.

    I think our power to call forth allies from nowhere from this point can be explained away by the Azem stone etc but prior to that, nope not going to fly, when it is clear we are alone and the only possible beings able to be at that point in time right there is us and a few Npcs then that is what happened story wise.

    Again everything prior to the Azem memory stone is just story/game segregation but after it is introduced you can feasibly weave it in that you can call 7 other people to your side at any given point.
    Actually, there's a single other moment

    When G'raha summons champions from another shards in our last fight against Emet. Funny thing is that's likely also the only fight in the game where silly glamours can be considered 'canon' since the heroes in question could be doing anything before being yeeted to the First.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ntol View Post
    The scene with Lyse training with you atop Rhalgr´s Reach. I guess it would fit if you were a Monk or some job that wields a solid weapon, I was a lalafel White Mage.
    It admittedly looked so dumb doing that with any non-melee job. I was a SCH, guess I slapped her with my book offscreen.
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    Last edited by Allegor; 09-05-2020 at 03:25 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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