Disappointed that private individuals can purchase housing plots in 5.35

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I would explain at lenght that safety measure can be taken, and hooking up servers with an exterior provider (as SE does, they don't own their servers btw) is completely safe and doable even in the current pandemic situation. Then again it might vary from country to country.
So yeah, covid doesn't transmit through ethernet cables neither.

And stop assuming so many things. Is bad for you. Takes you from a position of knowledge to one of opinion and that is always... Not good for discussion, some might even call it a logical failure.
For example assuming i don't care about COVID or people working conditions.

Anet released the last patch of GW2 without voice acting due to COVID. Now that understand perfectly.
Not adding servers to an online service... I press X for doubt.

They do own the servers. If you took the time to read the notice on the lodestone maybe you'd understand that.


Also, they aren't adding hdds, that's not the issue with housing. Processing power is, hence the new servers

[Penthea]

Not adding servers to an online service... I press X for doubt.

It seems that you do not realise that people manage these things and setting up servers actually requires some degree of manual labour. It's not all just mouse clicks from a remote location. That can only happen after a considerable amount of set-up done by other people.

I understand the criticism about SE and housing, I very frequently criticise it myself. But that doesn't mean I'm going to say covid cannot be an excuse for delays when I know for a fact that some people need to work on site in order to be able to actually do their job. Not all jobs relating to online services can be done remotely. People need to put the hardware in its physical location. You don't just press a button and *poof* new servers appear all wired up and ready to use.

I would explain at lenght that safety measure can be taken, and hooking up servers with an exterior provider (as SE does, they don't own their servers btw) is completely safe and doable even in the current pandemic situation.

If governments even in the most powerful and rich countries around the world did not have adequate measures set up to deal with a pandemic then I struggle to understand why you think SE would or should considering they're not a governing body at all and they specialise entertainment, not essential services.

It would of course be nice if everyone could have been prepared but capitalism often doesn't permit this to happen because it is not seen as profitable to prepare for a situation that is deemed to be exceptionally unlikely to happen. This is the only pandemic of this scale that any of us have even seen in our lifetime, and it's true even for the eldest generation. Very few thought this would happen.

[SpiralMask]

@OP: high-pop server player here--i vehemently disagree. every new ward being snapped up by relocations and all their old plots being camped by bots for the vicious random timer was awful, and i fully welcome things returning to a relatively equal playing field (though of course this is limited to launch day only, and then the botswarms descend again).

At least now people who don't have a house (and therefore completely locked out of access to airships/submarines/advanced farming plots and the gil that comes from those) actually have a brief dream of a shot at getting one.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

Ah, the elitism. I see the crafters and gatherers are coming out to attack me to try to secure their private housing and leave poorer and casual FCs in the dust.

Please QQ some more about how you don't have enough money to buy a house. Everyone has the same chance. You have the funds for it? Great. If you don't? Better work to save up.

[lolicon09]

As if THAT was the problem with housing. Gil.
The problem here is the devs that don't want to make personal housing instanced and guild housing into wards. Or just double up the number of wards and be done with the problem. Instead of adding housing, after a few months determine new minimuns and add over 100 wards to each server, see how it fills and then in a few months just remove wards was they are vacant and populations don't go, many players don't even care about housing.

6 wards are what, like 300 houses total?

The whole housing in this game needs to be burned down, i know wards are cool, but they just are not working.
Instanced housing is the way to go.

Or just invest in a hundred more housing servers, like what, cannot purchase more HDDs?

Well, it seems Gil IS the problem for OP. Also, to be fair, there IS instanced housing already in the game for individuals (departments); which only cost 500,000 Gil and, unlike plots, you won't lose it no matter how much time you spend without visiting it. Saddly, no one want them because there's no exterior to decorate/furnish, and no way to crossbreed plants.

[JamieRose]

The last time new housing wards were available, it was limited to FCs at first and everything was fine. On all but the most populated servers plots remained available for individuals when it's their turn. Now, however, it seems that FCs need to compete with private individuals for housing. Not only is this unjust as it rewards rich individual players with huge amounts of gil and punish FCs with mostly casual players trying to amass their gil together to purchase a house together, we also cannot forget that individual housing are intentionally limited.

They cannot use airships or submersibles because SE decided that there needs to be a penalty to individual housing to disincentivize private players from purchasing them and nudge them towards grouping together in free company housing to enjoy the social aspect of the game. Private housing is anti-social, while free company housing is social. This is one reason why we should be prioritizing free company housing before personal housing.

Furthermore, allowing private housing to go first means it disproportionately rewards private crafters and/or gatherers who have the means to make the most gil, which is unfair to players who are more casual. It might not seem apparent why this is the case at first, but consider this scenario: a medium housing plot goes for sale at 17.5M gil, which is a huge sum of gil for all but the most dedicated of players. A private crafter or gatherer can easily afford that gil, and veteran players who have played this game for years can easily afford that even without crafting/gathering. But to casual players who play this game for a few hours per week, that amount of gil is an extreme cost. Now, an FC with 10 casual players can afford that cost by paying 1.75M gil each, which is more on the affordable side that even most casual players can afford. So if SE allows private individuals to purchase housing at the same time as FCs, that means more casual players who may not have that much gil are disadvantaged while players who are already very rich are advantaged.

Finally, most private individuals already belong to an FC. They already enjoy the content that FC housing brings: such as gardening, airships, and decoration. Allowing them to get another house just for themselves is unfair to FCs who do not have a house yet.

I hope SE will seriously reconsider this decision.

FCs can pound sand. I want a house and if FCs get a week's jump on us they'll all be gone. You know that's true.

[Vahlnir]

Not being a Highlander made it look like a legit post. Damn it. Wonder how many accounts this person has

That's what got me too.

[Hanayumi]

These wards are being added because there is no demolitions taking place at the moment because of the pandemic, not because of the overall housing issue. Its almost certain they will add more wards later on once they improve server infrastructure, not to mention we'll also be getting an entirely new area once ishgard restoration is complete.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Well apparently talking about housing is now considered "trolling". I wonder if there's a group of private crafters and gatherers out there trying to snipe all the mansions by going on the forums and attacking anyone who wants Fc Housing.

It certainly wouldn't be you, not with your hordes of accounts full of crafter and gatherers.

[MilitaryVet123]

It certainly wouldn't be you, not with your hordes of accounts full of crafter and gatherers.

I only have one account. Meanwhile you probably have dozens considering your link with the Malboro Novice Network mafia...