Disappointed that private individuals can purchase housing plots in 5.35

[NanaWiloh]

You are very wrong about FC houses they are not the same as a personal house. As FC leader giving out permissions for a FC house becomes a logistics nightmare the more members your FC has. In the case of my FC I cant just go giving everyone the furnishing permission cause it would lead to fighting, theft and become a plain pain in my rear. So at the moment outside of myself the only ranks that have furnishing permission is the rank held by my co-leader, a rank made a specially for my spouse and a high end crafter rank. You have to be with my FC for a great deal of time and be contributing often to even have a chance at a rank with the furnishing permission. Airships permissions are also tightly controlled especially the construction/Deconstruction permission. For those that don't want to deal with these kinds restrictions and have no interest in an apartment a personal house is the prime choice. As for crafters and gathers I am omni crafter, I have just under 4 million gil and have never personally had anything above 5 million. The reason I have so little is cause I dont make any major effort to make more, I live mostly off what the game hands me from raids, dungeons,maps,etc. Not every crafter and gather is swimming in wealth and can go buy a home willy nilly like the amount is pocket change.

[NanaWiloh]

I keep reading the title of this thread as "pirate individuals."

Please let pirates own houses too! #arrrlivesmatter

Here a fine selection of pirate songs for you.


Drunken sailor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGyPuey-1Jw


Yo ho, yo ho a pirates life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A19q7rysLs

Keehauled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta-Z_psXODw

[Luna-M]

Ah, the elitism. I see the crafters and gatherers are coming out to attack me to try to secure their private housing and leave poorer and casual FCs in the dust.

Now you're being silly. Making Gil isn't hard in this game if you put effort into it. I for example, been making 30 mil since 5.3 and I'm not that hardcore into it. But if you don't want to put into the work then settle for a small and relocate later when a medium or large get available. Better have a house than no house, yes?

[AkaeiNox]

Here a fine selection of pirate songs for you.

Ahoy, Matey!
We must plunder owns galleon as pirates 'o light.
Ships fer all says I! Yarrrghh!

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No but seriously I would love an instanced ship/airship housing with an onboard garden and all of that. Maybe with an upkeep cost as a gil sink for the larger personal ships.

[Luna-M]

No but seriously I would love an instanced ship/airship housing with an onboard garden and all of that.

Soo you can walk the plank? (:

[AkaeiNox]

I guess you could ask your guests to walk it. I'm not going anywhere near the sharks. (Look at the Moonfire event)
But naval battles with other players would be really fun. *Not like this would ever happen

[Penthea]

Now, however, it seems that FCs need to compete with private individuals for housing. Not only is this unjust as it rewards rich individual players with huge amounts of gil and punish FCs with mostly casual players trying to amass their gil together to purchase a house together, we also cannot forget that individual housing are intentionally limited.

Huge amounts of gil? Have you forgotten how cheap cottages are? Some of the most wanted plots in the game are cottages. Particularly those on the beach in Mist and Shirogane.

As for players with several accounts purchasing several private homes, there is little anyone can do about that. SE can't ban the use of multiple accounts on the same IP address or even within the same gaming rig without punishing players who happen to share a home or a gaming rig due to financial circumstances.

Private housing is anti-social, while free company housing is social. This is one reason why we should be prioritizing free company housing before personal housing.

By saying that private housing is anti-social you are entirely ignoring the fact that tenancy exists and is very frequently used. In addition to this I will share one of the things I do with my private home:

I redecorate the entrance floor and the garden of our fc house every time there is an event in the game (The Rising, Halloween, etc). I put quite a lot of effort into this and sometimes weeks of planning occurs because I don't like to do the same thing twice. I use my basement in my personal house as a testing ground for furnishing ideas for these events. The members of my fc very much enjoy that the house matches the events in the game, and even express excitement as to what comes next. I don't think anyone can say that I use my house solely for anti-social purposes.

Furthermore, allowing private housing to go first means it disproportionately rewards private crafters and/or gatherers who have the means to make the most gil, which is unfair to players who are more casual.

You're literally complaining that players who put in more effort to make gil make more gil? lol

And what is this about demonising "private" crafters and gatherers? I have played this game for several years and never came across this term before. The crafting and gathering system is designed so you can do everything by yourself. I really dislike that you're trying to suggest that it's a bad thing if a player wants to make a lot of gil for their personal expenses.

It might not seem apparent why this is the case at first, but consider this scenario: a medium housing plot goes for sale at 17.5M gil, which is a huge sum of gil for all but the most dedicated of players. A private crafter or gatherer can easily afford that gil, and veteran players who have played this game for years can easily afford that even without crafting/gathering. But to casual players who play this game for a few hours per week, that amount of gil is an extreme cost.

I'm not sure how removing the ability for individuals to purchase houses the day the new wards launch would fix this. If a fc doesn't have the gil for a larger house then it doesn't really matter whether the placard allows them to buy it or not. Preventing individuals from purchasing houses right away isn't going to put gil into someone else's pockets.

Finally, most private individuals already belong to an FC. They already enjoy the content that FC housing brings: such as gardening, airships, and decoration. Allowing them to get another house just for themselves is unfair to FCs who do not have a house yet.

Many fcs do not allow full furnishing privileges for all members in fc houses because this can lead to drama. Player A puts a furnishing in the house or garden, player B quietly removes the furnishing, then player A accuses members of taking furniture they placed for the fc for their personal use, and an argument erupts. Another way this can go wrong is creative differences in how the house should look. Sometimes this causes drama, or the house ends up looking like a mess. I have personally seen these things happen and it was far from pleasant to witness it.

Again many fcs do not allow airship use for all the members, as this can lead to people sending ships on missions to areas that have items the fc does not need, or a player trying to use the airship for their personal use without asking other people first. And of course these things can lead to drama.

Some fcs don't even allow gardening privileges for all their members, but I will admit that this appears to be very rare.

The fact is if a person wants the freedom to decorate a house exactly how they wish, the only way they can achieve that is by having a private home or being a one-man fc with a fc house.

[Infindox]

Private housing is not inherently antisocial, it's because certain people make it out to be. The FC house (a medium) is decorated with the intent of having a "clubhouse" feel. My house (also a medium) is intended to be a relaxing hangout spot where three of my friends can do as they please with gardening and is set up the way I want it, instead of the FC being for everyone. (and people hang out at my house too.) There's also a problem with people making an fc for themselves, buying a house, and then letting it rot (if you've seen any other posts I've done, a large rots behind a fc with only two people in it.) I personally will never own a Large for a personal, but if someone is going to use it, they have every right to.

[SenorPatty]

Here a fine selection of pirate songs for you.


Drunken sailor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGyPuey-1Jw


Yo ho, yo ho a pirates life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A19q7rysLs

Keehauled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta-Z_psXODw

Um, where is the One Piece rap? Everyone knows that's like, the national anthem for pirates.

[Juicymama]

Ah, the elitism. I see the crafters and gatherers are coming out to attack me to try to secure their private housing and leave poorer and casual FCs in the dust.

you don't need craft and gather to make money. Go abuse server market board and keep track of things that has a major price difference to your server.