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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    Got it, so you can't read. Those two statements have nothing to do with each other. Yes, we are walking wallets to them, what else would we be? Special friends? I didn't say they were robbing me or forcing me to buy anything.
    "But do we really need to keep pretending and defending it like it's anything other than a cash grab transaction?"

    Hmm...Yea, i'm sorry what was that again? Again, you don't have to buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    "But do we really need to keep pretending and defending it like it's anything other than a cash grab transaction?"

    Hmm...Yea, i'm sorry what was that again? Again, you don't have to buy it.
    Where does that say anything about having to buy anything?? It is a cash grab transaction. It isn't a gift, it isn't support and it isn't a donation. What's not clicking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    Where does that say anything about having to buy anything??
    What's the drama then?
    If you aren't forced to buy it, and we got tons of other cool mounts ingame, then what's the drama exactly? SE earning extra money which will be used to make more content?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    What's the drama then?
    If you aren't forced to buy it, and we got tons of other cool mounts ingame, what's the drama exactly? SE earning extra money which will be used to make more content?
    There is no drama, not on my end at least? I'm saying let people buy what they want to buy, but we don't have to pretend like we're doing them a favor or making a donation (which was happening earlier in the thread.) Why is this controversial?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    There is no drama, not on my end at least? I'm saying let people buy what they want to buy, but we don't have to pretend like we're doing them a favor or making a donation (which was happening earlier in the thread.) Why is this controversial?
    Oh. I'm a bit confused. Of course it's not a donation; we're buying something from SE. If they want our money, they need to create content that will make us want to pay for it, as no one will pay for nothing.

    As for doing them a favour, I guess people mean that the money we spend will help the game grow, which is true as far as I know (we definitely get more content now than we did in the first patches).

    I don't see what's controversial either (>_<;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    There is no drama, not on my end at least? I'm saying let people buy what they want to buy, but we don't have to pretend like we're doing them a favor or making a donation (which was happening earlier in the thread.) Why is this controversial?



    Whoa, you are questioning their beliefs. The dev team is their friend and this isn't a business. You should trust your friends and not question them. Also you should send them gifts.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    No items are made by other regions. The other regions pay SE to make those items for them.

    I don't know what is true. But the friends of SE definitely do not believe your statement. I have seen multiple defense of cash shop that state otherwise. Maybe instead of selling more merch on LL they could clarify how this is all developed. But again they aren't really are friends and don't owe us anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    I don't know what is true. But the friends of SE definitely do not believe your statement.
    IIRC Yoshi-P said that's how it works on a stream at some point. Makes sense if you think about it, they have all the tools to do it and they make stuff all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    Where does that say anything about having to buy anything?? It is a cash grab transaction. It isn't a gift, it isn't support and it isn't a donation. What's not clicking?
    What's not clicking? Oh man. Let's put this in simpler terms.

    You are complaining, just like a few others about the "Item". You state that it could have just been an quest item, that SE doesn't circulate money back into the game - it's just a cash grab and were just waiting to be milked of our money. The way you go on about it is like SE is forcing it down your throat. If you really think "It's fine" as you've stated then you wouldn't really be side-complaining here would you? If you say you are not being forced to buy it, then what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    What's not clicking? Oh man. Let's put this in simpler terms.

    You are complaining, just like a few others about the "Item". You state that it could have just been an quest item, that SE doesn't circulate money back into the game - it's just a cash grab and were just waiting to be milked of our money. The way you go on about it is like SE is forcing it down your throat. If you really think "It's fine" as you've stated then you wouldn't really be side-complaining here would you? If you say you are not being forced to buy it, then what?
    I said it could have been a quest item because the poster made an incredulous remark about a 4 seater mount being a quest reward when we had the Regalia as exactly that in the past. I also said it was fine that it's not, just that it could have been. (But the timing will never not be funny to me, happy 7 years and thanks for everything everyone. Here's our most expensive mount to date.)

    I said we don't know if, and how much, of that money exclusively goes back into the game because they would never tell us that if that situation changed and we won't ever know. You're putting words in my mouth because you seem to take offense at me saying we are nothing more than customers and I don't see why?

    I don't have any beef with the mount, the cash shop in general or people buying the mount. By all means buy it and enjoy it, all I was saying is we don't have to pretend we're making donations and doing favors and not just... Buying something from a massive corporation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    I said it could have been a quest item because the poster made an incredulous remark about a 4 seater mount being a quest reward when we had the Regalia as exactly that in the past. I also said it was fine that it's not, just that it could have been. (But the timing will never not be funny to me, happy 7 years and thanks for everything everyone. Here's our most expensive mount to date.)

    I said we don't know if, and how much, of that money actually still goes back into the game because they would never tell us that if that situation changed and we won't ever know. You're putting words in my mouth because you seem to take offense at me saying we are nothing more than customers and I don't see why?

    I don't have any beef with the mount, the cash shop in general or people buying the mount. By all means buy it and enjoy it, all I was saying is we don't have to pretend we're making donations and doing favors and not just... Buying something from a massive corporation.
    No, i'm not putting words into your mouth if i'm merely stating what you said in previous posts. Your replies simply clarified exactly more what you were thinking and how you feel. Also i don't take offense to you at all. It's just simply the way your posts were constructed that it made it look like SE was forcing you to buy it and i merely just stated the obvious. All is good.
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