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    Quote Originally Posted by Siegrand View Post
    Like all new items on the store you can think of it as donating some money to help your favorite MMO keep going strong, while getting a cool cosmetic item in the process.
    That is a terrifyingly stupid way to look at it.

    If people want to buy it - fine. It's your money. But don't convince yourself that you're helping your old pal SE out in the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilyrian View Post
    That is a terrifyingly stupid way to look at it.

    If people want to buy it - fine. It's your money. But don't convince yourself that you're helping your old pal SE out in the process.
    I mean technically we do have confirmation that the Mogstation sales go directly back into the game and are the only source of revenue that does so. Subscriptions and expansion sales are filtered back to SE proper before being divided across multiple projects, FF14 included. So they're not technically wrong in the slightest.

    Now whether or not you feel that a $35 mount is WORTH it to buy or ethically okay to even sell in the first place is another matter entirely. Personally it and most of the Mogstation items are too pricey for me, so I'll likely wait for another sale before even considering it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    I mean technically we do have confirmation that the Mogstation sales go directly back into the game and are the only source of revenue that does so. Subscriptions and expansion sales are filtered back to SE proper before being divided across multiple projects, FF14 included. So they're not technically wrong in the slightest.

    Now whether or not you feel that a $35 mount is WORTH it to buy or ethically okay to even sell in the first place is another matter entirely. Personally it and most of the Mogstation items are too pricey for me, so I'll likely wait for another sale before even considering it.
    First time reading this and it seems to me one of the most horrendous things and more seeing the current situation with the content of the game, a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Siegrand View Post
    Well you don't really need to go calling people stupid because they don't agree with you. But yeah, the money paid on the store does go to back to the game.
    It's stupid to have to buy from a store to support debs when you're already paying for the game and a sub every month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilyrian View Post
    If people want to buy it - fine. It's your money. But don't convince yourself that you're helping your old pal SE out in the process.
    Well you don't really need to go calling people stupid because they don't agree with you. But yeah, the money paid on the store does go to back to the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilyrian View Post
    That is a terrifyingly stupid way to look at it.

    If people want to buy it - fine. It's your money. But don't convince yourself that your helping your old pal SE out in the process.
    Oh but it does, you'd be shocked to know how much the overhead on an MMORPG like this is. The box fee and subs cover the barest amount of the game. The store items, especially the fantasia cover all the extras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    Oh but it does, you'd be shocked to know how much the overhead on an MMORPG like this is. The box fee and subs cover the barest amount of the game. The store items, especially the fantasia cover all the extras.
    It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't also perfectly happy admitting they have designers and modelers working in their unpaid free time to do things like make glowing primal weapons, making sure Viera and Hrothgar had some working head/face items and didn't launch in a completely trash state, and who knows what else we haven't heard about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't also perfectly happy admitting they have designers and modelers working in their unpaid free time to do things like make glowing primal weapons, making sure Viera and Hrothgar had some working head/face items and didn't launch in a completely trash state, and who knows what else we haven't heard about.
    Unlikely they did that *on their free time*, as this was likely a PR move of them to make the new races halfway acceptable.

    Imagine two new races with zero head pieces to wear, and with one of them being unable to even change haircuts without the use of fantasia. This place would riot, and with good reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    Unlikely they did that *on their free time*, as this was likely a PR move of them to make the new races halfway acceptable.

    Imagine two new races with zero head pieces to wear, and with one of them being unable to even change haircuts without the use of fantasia. This place would riot, and with good reason.
    Right, which is why saying so proudly they went behind Yoshi's back to do it in their free time is so bizarre to me. What am I supposed to take away from that? That Yoshida himself didn't care enough to make sure the new races had anything to wear on their heads? Or they're so strapped for cash the only possible way to make it work was through the devotion of the designers? I see people gobble it up and applaud it, but really looking at it that's anything but good PR to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    I see people gobble it up and applaud it, but really looking at it that's anything but good PR to me.
    Yes, it's really not a good look.
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