Housing Ownership Restrictions

[Almagnus1]

This isn't a housing thread.

OP's suggestion was summarily shot down 3 or 4 pages ago. Now, the thread is just a couple people throwing out personal attacks in the hopes of getting someone mad at them.

I still say we move on to what necromancers will look like in 6.0

By the way, when you pull stuff like the following from https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5413624 :



You lose all credibility on the subject.

So Don Quixote, let me know when you slay a windmill =)

[Catstab]

So Don Quixote, let me know when you slay a windmill =)

These infantile attempts to start an argument aren't going to work.

You want your FC to be rewarded for their efforts with a house. Your way to get this done is to suggest players who already have houses to have them taken away, citing that "houses are not rewards, they're chocobos." -Almagnus 2020

Houses can't be rewards for your FC while being meaningless to the players you want them taken away from.

Your logic is bad. Your suggestion is bad. It's never going to happen. Calling me "Don Quixote" doesn't change the fact that I have dismantled your point completely. This thread is over, it's just a food fight at this point.

[Almagnus1]

These infantile attempts to start an argument aren't going to work.

I'm not the one who started the entire false attribution thing, you did - and then you promptly got owned for it.

You want your FC to be rewarded for their efforts with a house.

So about that quote Don Quixote....

Here's the quote you took out of context on https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5413624



And here's the response that you pulled it out of.



The response was intended to highlight how many wasted hours of time this current system has caused (which is to be expected with a housing shortage) and how even on opening day we couldn't relo the FC house because all the large houses were gone before the officers on PS4s could load in. Again, I do not expect that we were the only FC that had experienced this. That's all setup for the question you pulled out of context as that question was written in a mocking tone basically "you're not seriously saying that, are you?" and should be read as purely rhetorical - especially when the very next sentence shows just how ridiculous that question actually is. The only reason why it's its own paragraph was to better spotlight that question.

I hope for your sake, Don Quixote, that English isn't your primary language because otherwise this is a massive reading comprehension failure on your part - or it's you demonstrating your agenda to have some evil anti-multi house owner miscreant that you need to fight against... or better put, you need a windmill to fight.

Calling me "Don Quixote" doesn't change the fact that I have dismantled your point completely.

Your "dismantling" is so far off base it's basically on the Fifth because the only thing you dismantled was your own fabricated arguments. Keep fighting those windmills Don Quixote.

/micdrop

[Catstab]

So about that quote Don Quixote....

The response was intended to highly

I hope for your sake, Don Quixote, that English isn't your primary language because otherwise this is a massive reading comprehension failure on your part

Keep fighting those windmills Don Quixote.

You hope English isn't my primary language, and you want to highly something. That's not a verb.

[Almagnus1]

You hope English isn't my primary language, and you want to highly something. That's not a verb.

You got your butt handed to you so badly trying to pick apart the idea (because honestly, it's just that rock solid) that the only option you have is to point a typo and rewrite quotes.

Face it, you've lost this one.

[Catstab]

You got your butt handed to you so badly trying to pick apart the idea (because honestly, it's just that rock solid) that the only option you have is to point a typo and rewrite quotes.

Face it, you've lost this one.

A typo is a missed letter. You missed 4. That's not a typo.

It still stands that you think players should have rewards that they worked for taken away so that your FC and those like them can have those rewards instead. It's a bad idea. SE isn't going to take away rewards people have earned to help people that failed to earn rewards.

You're arguing against rules of the game that simply aren't going to change. We're getting new wards, that's the actual solution, not making a new problem like you're suggesting. Good luck to your FC and their 'Kurogane' house. You should let them know it's 'Shirogane' before they take the wrong teleport and miss out this time, too.

[Penthea]

SE isn't going to take away rewards people have earned

They actually have done this before. Demolition has not always been in the game. It came during HW. I remember it quite well because at the time I was in a fc that was able to get their first house because of the introduction of the demolition mechanic.

I understand that this is different as this is intended to take away housing from inactive players, and well active hoarders do not count as that, but the fact remains SE have taken houses away from people before. And like people such as yourself, these people did not break any rules, but SE changed the rules so their houses were removed if they did not meet the new requirements to keep them.

EDIT: additionally I recall that some players came back to the game and got a nasty surprise when they found that they no longer had a house. People don't tend to read patch notes or look out for warnings about a game they're currently not playing especially if it's for an extended period of time. They expected the rules of the housing system to stay the same, and well I don't blame them for it. It was the first time something like that had happened. It just shows how flawed the entire ward system is. It would be great if there was absolutely no availability issues and we could all enjoy our houses stress-free, take breaks for as long as needed and then just pick up where we left off when we play again. But unfortunately this isn't what we have. So we're here.

[Almagnus1]

A typo is a missed letter. You missed 4. That's not a typo.

Dylsexia FTL.

You gonna mock me about that now?

It still stands that you think players should have rewards that they worked for taken away so that your FC and those like them can have those rewards instead.

Housing =/= Reward

Knock it off with the red herring already.

SE isn't going to take away rewards people have earned to help people that failed to earn rewards.

So then I guess that the following from https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...c91d884c6b6a84 never happened....

[2.0] To ensure that plots of land are not claimed and left unused, estates not accessed for extended periods of time will be automatically demolished.
Estates Subject to Demolishing
Free company housing that has not been accessed by at least one member of the company within forty-five days.
Private housing that has not been accessed by the owner within forty-five days.
Purchased plots of land upon which an estate has not been built within forty-five days.
* The count for days of inactivity will begin on the release of patch 3.1

Steps Prior to Demolishing
Thirty days of inactivity
A notification indicating that the estate is being prepared for auto-demolition will appear in the Timers interface in the Duty tab of the Main Menu

Thirty-five days of inactivity
An e-mail will be delivered to the registered e-mail addresses of all free company members, or the owner of a private estate, indicating the estate is being prepared for auto-demolition.

Forty-two days of inactivity
An e-mail will be delivered to the registered e-mail addresses of all free company members, or the owner of a private estate, indicating that the estate will be demolished automatically in three days.

Forty-five days of inactivity
The estate will be automatically demolished.

Halting Demolition
Any free company member or private housing owner entering the estate at any time prior to demolition will cancel the demolition process.
* A tenant entering a shared estate will not cancel the demolition process.

After Demolition
When an estate has been demolished, or the rights to an empty plot have been relinquished, said plot will be made available for purchase to all players on that World. The price will decrease every six hours from the time at which it is made available for purchase.

Reclaiming Gil and Items
When an estate has been demolished, gil and certain furnishings will be placed in the care of the Resident Caretaker for a fixed period of time.

Redeemable from the Resident Caretaker
・80% of the price paid for the estate grounds.
・Indoor and outdoor furnishings that are not destroyed upon removal.
・Chocobos stabled on the estate grounds.
　* Players must speak with the housing enthusiast to retrieve their chocobos.

Not Redeemable from the Resident Caretaker
・The construction permit required to build an estate.
・Furnishings destroyed upon removal.
・Housing exteriors.
・Private chambers.
・Plants in the garden that have yet to be harvested.
・Aetherial wheels that have yet to finish charging.
・Company workshops, their purchase fees, and any registered airships in the workshop.
* Players will have thirty-five days to redeem items from the resident caretaker before they are made irredeemable. Items belonging to a free company estate can only be retrieved by members with the authorization to purchase or relinquish land. Items belonging to a private estate can only be retrieved by the owner. Chocobos are not subject to the thirty-five day timer.

If SE's done it before, SE can do it again.

[PewPewPewPewPew]

/micdrop

Excuse me, you dropped this, might need it still.

The response was intended to highly how many wasted hours of time this current system has caused (which is to be expected with a housing shortage) and how even on opening day we couldn't relo the FC house because all the large houses were gone before the officers on PS4s could load in. Again, I do not expect that we were the only FC that had experienced this. That's all setup for the question you pulled out of context as that question was written in a mocking tone basically "you're not seriously saying that, are you?" and should be read as purely rhetorical - especially when the very next sentence shows just how ridiculous that question actually is. The only reason why it's its own paragraph was to better spotlight that question.

It's humorous to me how fixated you are on the time you spent to try and relo. Let me help you understand: You didn't spend enough time. People like me and many others spent more time to prepare and be ready for it with a plan B, plan C, plan D, all the way to plan Z. You only planned until maybe B. You seriously overvalue your time. Your time is laughable in comparison to the amount of time other people put in and you resent us for your own lack of preparation and inability to be more agile in a make or break situation. That resentment is shown through all your posts in this thread.

Just remember, you will always be picking up scraps of what we don't bother picking up, because you'll never be on time due to being too busy getting mad at other people who busted their chops for the extra 1-3 seconds worth of advantage.