Housing Ownership Restrictions

[Penthea]

No, it wasn't.

Unless you can provide proof that they actually said they want a house that belongs to you personally for themselves, then it was.

[Kenky]

Unless you can provide proof that they actually said they want a house that belongs to you personally for themselves, then it was.

Do you not even read their posts? Jeez. It's like several people in this discussion want nothing but to be antagonistic. Go elsewhere for a fight, since it's damn clear you've lost days ago.

In any case, Almagnus. Let's make it pretty clear what you're aiming for and how that changes with your statements.

1. You want people who own multiple houses (Specifically those that own private housing on alternate characters) to lose their houses, claiming they do not deserve them and that releasing .05% of the housing plots would magically fix everything. This is grossly out of the question. People shouldn't lose what they earned through legitimate channels and effort because some other insignificant spec on the radar demands to be above them.

2. You want FCs who own multiple houses to give up all but one of their buildings and the housing system in its entirety to have new rules that reflect your personal desires, going to the point of punishing people in the Now for following the rules in the Past. No. That's insane. Again, the issues you continue to claim are "ruining housing" isn't ruining it. Things you claim that are against the rules aren't actually against the rules. Nobody is breaking any terms with what they are doing and demonizing people for selfish acts is, once again, beyond stupid. Basic human nature and everyone, no matter who they are or what they say, act selfish quite a number of times every day to the point that it's an unconscious act, given it's so ingrained in human nature.

There is no clear-cut "solution" to housing at present, purely because of a serious lack of information on SE's side of things. Before Stormblood, the housing was fine and dandy. But with sudden population booms and the cry for people to get everything they want whenever they want it (completely ignoring the main concept of housing being a prestige or optional luxury) which has lead to topics like that that refuse to listen to anything but their own voice.

There is no guarantee that housing CAN be fixed. SE can open new wards, to the point where every player can have a house, but then more people will return to FFXIV and thus, render it a useless solution as there will always be more people coming over because of said system, only to cry that they can't have it right now. Continuing to ignore the entire damn point of Apartments Not everyone wants Instanced Housing. Even SE has said "No" to instanced housing, purely because they want the Neighborhood feeling. Not some random building kept in the void.

There is only so much SE can do before something snaps. Given the majority of their playerbase couldn't care less about housing, it's not going to get any serious touch-ups until SE have a large lull in work (which won't happen, mind!) to be able to put people onto such a project.

[Penthea]

Do you not even read their posts? Jeez. It's like several people in this discussion want nothing but to be antagonistic. Go elsewhere for a fight, since it's damn clear you've lost days ago.

It's clear a group of you have a strong distaste for me. So much so that some of you even ganged up on me in another thread and ridiculed me for the actions of a totally different person. Some of you also have a clear dislike for some of what OP says.

There is no way the people in that group would choose to not disclose undeniable proof that verifies the things that they say, especially when it confirms that the opposition has made a very personal insult or has expressed the wish to take a specific person's house for themselves. That opportunity is far too juicy to just let it slip by.

So sorry unless I see proof that OP had said they want the house of a specific person, then I'm not going to believe they said that simply because someone else says it is so.

If said proof is provided I will bow down because the harsh truth is there are people out there who want a specific person's house. There are people who target very specific individuals when they complain about hoarding. There are people who appear more interested in some form of vengeance than fairness in the system. Yes they make my side of the conversation about housing look weaker, but that doesn't mean I will not admit that these people do exist.

And before anyone says "but if you are on their side then that must mean you want to have a house someone else owns" I got my house a few years ago. I'm here because I strongly disagree with how some aspects of housing work.

[PewPewPewPewPew]

Lots of air.

Ah yes, time to be the victim again. In a post that attacks people and blames a system because of those people. It's because you're nothing but disingenuous and your only goal is to raise your ego by riding on what other people say to look like the one master bigbrain around here.

Let's not forget now and remind the audience here:

Both this post and the last post whipped out pitchforks and fire at people who were basically non existent, by name and by location. Posting actions that are actually against the TOS mind you. You joined the parade with your "HOUSE HORDING IS SELFISH" T-shirt and cap but after people said no you're wrong, you quickly tumbled over and acted like the one in distress. Your strategy continues to be well everyone else said it first why are you mad at me?????So you instigate more conflict AND you stoop lower by blaming others before you. Yikes.

And uh oh, I think the text size is increasing. Don't get scared and run away now.It would be a shame if you started shifting back into your victimized persona all of a sudden because of the scary text size. You really should leave everyone alone and keep your opinions to yourself or submit them to staff because most of everything you have to say results in negative reactions. But you know this, so you continue doing it. But I think you also can't sleep until you have the last word in every conversation and feel justified in your stance by becoming the oppressed side so you can protect your really flimsy reputation on here.

Continue hating the system and the people who 'abuse' it. You're screaming into a well that has been screamed into for years with no change. You guys are being like that karen who called the police on a black dude watching birds in the park and then played victim. Except its over fake housing. I think your questions were already 'answered' and literally nobody else here cares to entertain your ridiculous ideas. Why not go try reddit or a discord server where you might gather a larger audience to feed that ego of yours?

BIG TEXT, BOO!!

[Penthea]

Ah yes, time to be the victim again. In a post that attacks people and blames a system because of those people. It's because you're nothing but disingenuous and your only goal is to raise your ego by riding on what other people say to look like the one master bigbrain around here.

Let's not forget now and remind the audience here:

Both this post and the last post whipped out pitchforks and fire at people who were basically non existent, by name and by location. Posting actions that are actually against the TOS mind you. You joined the parade with your "HOUSE HORDING IS SELFISH" T-shirt and cap but after people said no you're wrong, you quickly tumbled over and acted like the one in distress. Your strategy continues to be well everyone else said it first why are you mad at me?????So you instigate more conflict AND you stoop lower by blaming others before you. Yikes.

And uh oh, I think the text size is increasing. Don't get scared and run away now.It would be a shame if you started shifting back into your victimized persona all of a sudden because of the scary text size. You really should leave everyone alone and keep your opinions to yourself or submit them to staff because most of everything you have to say results in negative reactions. But you know this, so you continue doing it. But I think you also can't sleep until you have the last word in every conversation and feel justified in your stance by becoming the oppressed side so you can protect your really flimsy reputation on here.

Continue hating the system and the people who 'abuse' it. You're screaming into a well that has been screamed into for years with no change. You guys are being like that karen who called the police on a black dude watching birds in the park and then played victim. Except its over fake housing. I think your questions were already 'answered' and literally nobody else here cares to entertain your ridiculous ideas. Why not go try reddit or a discord server where you might gather a larger audience to feed that ego of yours?

BIG TEXT, BOO!!

Okay bro. Whatever you say. Post in whatever way makes you happy. We all deserve happiness in our lives.

[PewPewPewPewPew]

Okay bro. Whatever you say. Post in whatever way makes you happy. We all deserve happiness in our lives.

So do the people who own many many houses, but I guess that didn't stop you from throwing the first stone.

[Penthea]

So do the people who own many many houses, but I guess that didn't stop you from throwing the first stone.

I said something extremely short and you managed to misread it...or maybe intentionally misread it. Try again.

Okay bro. Whatever you say. Post in whatever way makes you happy. We all deserve happiness in our lives.

Look, I even put it in those giant letters you love so much. Aren't I lovely?

Unless the definition of the word "post" can also mean owning multiple houses, then what I said cannot be applied to that. Sorry bro.

[PewPewPewPewPew]

Unless the definition of the word "post" can also mean owning multiple houses, then what I said cannot be applied to that. Sorry bro.

Oh my, I don't believe that's what it said in the original post.

Well that was a pretty low thing to do. Yikes.

[Doozer]

And uh oh, I think the text size is increasing. Don't get scared and run away now.It would be a shame if you started shifting back into your victimized persona all of a sudden because of the scary text size. You really should leave everyone alone and keep your opinions to yourself or submit them to staff because most of everything you have to say results in negative reactions. But you know this, so you continue doing it. But I think you also can't sleep until you have the last word in every conversation and feel justified in your stance by becoming the oppressed side so you can protect your really flimsy reputation on here.

Raging in a housing thread again, I see. Perhaps my suggestion about taking a break to calm down was pointless, since you seem always mad.

You guys are being like that karen who called the police on a black dude watching birds in the park and then played victim. Except its over fake housing.

Also can I get a huge yikes for this part. Comparing frustration with a housing system to real life racism that sometimes gets people killed? You're quite the character.

[PewPewPewPewPew]

Raging in a housing thread again, I see. Perhaps my suggestion about taking a break to calm down was pointless, since you seem always mad.



Also can I get a huge yikes for this part. Comparing frustration with a housing system to real life racism that sometimes gets people killed? You're quite the character.

There you are! I knew if I used big text you might hear it and show up! Welcome back!

I did the race comparison because you did it with sexual orientations so I thought it was okay, because Panthea finds it okay to say other people did stuff first making him innocent, so since its okay to do it and it's not his fault, I figured why not try the same thing too. Thanks for the tip man!

Well anyways nice to see you came just as expected. Now you can add some more useless observations and disappear again for another thread or two! Have at it my friend

It's weirdly entitled of you to demand I do things, or don't do things. I'm free to post in whatever thread I want. If RagingStallion can start 3 troll threads a day, I can give a short answer in a thread. What are you going to do about it?

My point was, since you really need it spelled out for you (surprise) is that lots of things in real life are legal but are still immoral. Being fired for being black, gay, etc., for example. In some states or countries, that's legal. Does that make it right or fair? No. There are lots of things that are 'allowed' but are still wrong. One player owning all the houses in a single ward is technically allowed in the game, because, well, it happens. A lot. But is it really fair for one person to have 30+ houses while many have none despite wanting one? No. Legal =/= moral. Get it now? Or is this just one absurdly long one-liner?