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    Maley Oakensage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    The issue there, Almagnus is.. Well. It's incredibly unlikely to happen in Japan. Purely because of the society they are a part of.

    In japan, they don't want to be a burden to each other. They put major emphasis on family and sticking to said family. So it would take quite a societal shift for this issue to occur in Japan to the point of needing actual action.

    (This could be entirely wrong and if that is so, I apologize. It's what I have found out from interacting with japanese families in the past.)

    Compared to the materialistic obsession that the "western world" has is definitely an issue, but that's something that we shouldn't really get in to, due to Controversy, politics and that will always start fights. Better not to.
    It's almost like the Japanese aren't being selfish about the matter....

    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    Your suggestion is to take away earned in-game rewards, destroying hours of player effort for little to no reward.
    Do you realize how many hours members of my FC spent trying to relo to Kurogane, including trying to relo the FC house from Mist to Kurogane only to have nothing?

    I imagine they're not alone, and there are probably others in the same boat as well.

    Are you suggesting they should be compensated for their efforts?

    Besides, the house itself is not a reward. You complete no quests to get it, you just walk over to the placard and pay for it. In other words, it's an item. Yes, you can do a lot with it, but at the end of the day, it's no different to your character than your chocobo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    You admitted that the root of the problem isn't alt houses, as if it wasn't obvious.
    So then please explain why it's acceptable to have more than one personal house per service account. And no, "because they were grandfathered in" is not a valid reason here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    We've already talked about the math. 20,220 houses too few is not going to be helped at all based on removing however many of the ~3780 player houses are alt owned. Even if half of all personal houses were owned by alts (which they aren't) we would gain about 1,890 personals, reducing homelessness by 9%.
    So... why not increase the number of players able to participate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    Having the change applied in the future prevents alts from getting in the way of mains when the new wards come about. The new wards are the solution, not alienating a small group of loyal players in order to free up a couple tiny corners of existing wards.
    You're acting like I'm not in favor of doing both....

    And even if we keep adding wards, I doubt that there's enough server capacity to generate the extra wards to match demand, so I see the only real solution here as both adding more wards and also making sure the wards are utilized by as many service accounts as possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    And I might also add that alts still can't share a house with their main but that house can be shared with friends.
    And that's something SE needs to change.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    What would help but not eliminate this is the reducing of the FC exclusivity by giving FC's no more that a week to buy a house when new wards release before private owners can access those houses for purchase. A week for an existing FC is already too long in my opinion. If I had my way I'd give them no more that 2 days.
    No, the problem is the shell FCs, not the exclusivity. There are plenty of FCs that want a house... but there's also plenty of greedy people that want their 20th or 30th house...

    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I'm a firm believer that a good way to combat a certain type of activity is to reduce the incentive to engage in said activity.

    Certainly allowing all characters in the same server and account to have access to the same private home would reduce the incentive to have multiple houses. Some may even let go of the houses that are not their favourite. Anyone with a larger house like a medium or a mansion could even designate sections to each of their characters, and it could lead to some really nice and interesting decor.

    Any private home owner can benefit from a feature like this. SE did express interest in introducing it so I think it's only a matter of time until it comes to the game.

    SE could even take it a step further and allow the alts of tenants have access to the same house, which would be beneficial to those who play with multiple accounts.
    I mean, it's not like I suggested that or anything....

    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    • All characters [on the same account that are] on [the same] server gain teleport locations to all the houses owned by all the characters on that server.
    And yet I'm supposed to be some evil multiple house owner hating miscreant....
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    Last edited by Almagnus1; 08-26-2020 at 01:37 AM.