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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    LOL, you post too fast, I didn't even see it while trying to catch up on the thread.
    VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM.

    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    One thing I would say is that no one can be an actual gate keeper unless they're an in-game bully, which is a reportable offense.
    Technically true, doesn't stop people from acting like what they say is the law SE must follow though.

    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    And that is why all we can do is voice our opinions, both in support of some ideas as well in opposition of other ideas. Let SE deal with the rest. It's just that places where ideas are shared can be places of arguments, which can be fun, but can also be unproductive or, worse, toxic.
    Yee, yee indeed!

    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    This is essentially my argument for removing race-class restriction in WoW. The lore argument to keep it just doesn't hold true and people don't realize that lore doesn't (and maybe shouldn't) be static, at least not entirely.
    I've started to coin it as the lore-no. Usually the people who use it are quite knowledgeable in the lore but they have restricted themselves very tightly around it too. For example I had asked for Tonberry beast tribe and was told that because they're not technically beasts that it couldn't be done. Now the person who said it I know isn't evil or whatever (generally quite nice), but instead of saying it's unlikely or that maybe the system could be fun but the concept of beast wont work so we'll need a different system they just flat out said it can't be done. Well wouldn't you find it funny when about two weeks later SE comes out with a beastmen lore book page that says it's more of a concept than a technical description of body, a racial word in essence or a usage that can be something akin to calling something third world. And wouldn't you find it even funnier if they released a beast tribe of lalafell in a subsequent expansion.. like.. wouldn't that be just... funny... . .. . . . Cause they did. XD.

    Lore-no's usually lead me to the 'you weren't really trying to have this conversation were you?' feeling. Eager to share their knowledge, which is nice, but not eager to actaully engage the potential ways to make the concept a reality. Like SMN and it's egi thing, back before it had demi. Sometimes people really do suggest things that are like "you literally have to rip out the lore to do that, and there is no other possible way what so ever" but just like people suggesting FFXIV be an RTS.. those type of suggestions are not 'that' common.

    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    So, no room to speak then. The internet might be much emptier, hmm, probably for the better in some cases.
    Loool. I cry .
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    Last edited by Shougun; 08-27-2020 at 06:12 AM.