No more QTE please.

[Lhunuial]

First of all, I am not used to playing with a controller. I have only used a controller a few times in my life. I always play on pc with my mouse and keyboard. Just using a controller for one button mash is excessive when I wouldn't use it anywhere else in the game. Plus switching between controller and keyboard while you're in the middle of a fight? I would have to learn to play with a controller when I am a PC player. I prefer continuing to play with my mouse and keyboard, thank you. As I've said before, playing with a controller feels incredibly awkward to me.

And just because there are people who have disabilities who were able to pass that QTE doesn't mean that's the same for everyone with disabilities. Each person's disability affects them differently. Normal typing on a keyboard doesn't bother me at all. I'm a translator, I do it for a living. Normal typing doesn't require me to mash a button for 13 seconds straight.

These wipes are not justified. This is storymode content. There is such small room for error on both the QTE and the LB3. That simply belongs in a savage or extreme mode, not normal content that everyone should be able to get through.

I would really hate to stop playing a game that I love because of one single QTE, when I've been able to pass previous QTEs.

[Gula]

First of all, I am not used to playing with a controller. I have only used a controller a few times in my life. I always play on pc with my mouse and keyboard. Just using a controller for one button mash is excessive when I wouldn't use it anywhere else in the game. Plus switching between controller and keyboard while you're in the middle of a fight? I would have to learn to play with a controller when I am a PC player. I prefer continuing to play with my mouse and keyboard, thank you. As I've said before, playing with a controller feels incredibly awkward to me.

You have a keyboard. You have more buttons by default than someone on controller. It's a fact you don't need to keep the meter at 100% This is an ancient technique but also an option, have a friend or someone do it for you. Not play the fight, but 8 seconds of contact with another human to pass the phase and the following cutscene gives enough time to pass the keyboard over. Provided you live with anyone. There's accessibility, and then there's "let's get rid of a concept for 50/5000 people."

The bus has to keep moving, a new one will come later. That's just the way public service works.

And when you respond indirectly it makes it hard to notice your posts. I'm not reading every single post, therefore I've very likely skipped over you several times.

[Lhunuial]

You have a keyboard. You have more buttons by default than someone on controller. It's a fact you don't need to keep the meter at 100% This is an ancient technique but also an option, have a friend or someone do it for you. Not play the fight, but 8 seconds of contact with another human to pass the phase and the following cutscene gives enough time to pass the keyboard over. Provided you live with anyone. There's accessibility, and then there's "let's get rid of a concept for 50/5000 people."

The bus has to keep moving, a new one will come later. That's just the way public service works.

And when you respond indirectly it makes it hard to notice your posts. I'm not reading every single post, therefore I've very likely skipped over you several times.

This is not comparable to a bus!!

FFXIV is a game with a community. The point of a community is to help people who can't keep up, who are in some way disabled. Because that's what a community is all about. You see it everywhere in rl. Adjustments are made to accommodate people who have problems. Deaf people, blind people, people in wheelchairs. This is no different!!

[redheadturk]

Again, a QTE should not cause people pain, it also should not wipe an entire party just because *one person* is unable to clear it. I cleared it, but had to quit playing the rest of the night after the trial because I was in *pain* when I completed it. I have heard the same from others here.

[Alleo]

I am still not sure why people are so fixed on defending that one mechanic? Its not like people wanted to change the whole fight and make that easier. No its just one single mechanic that honestly is not that enjoyable at all..(and takes away from the scene since you are focused more on smashing the keys..at least that was with my time at it)

Its kinda interesting how they choose to have such a thing in a MSQ fight yet in the extreme version its seemingly not here? Why not? Because for some its seemingly THE challenge that is so awesome that it should stay, even if it can hurt even people without a disability..

What is so important to it that some defend it by saying that people should just accept them and not complain on the forum (one of the big points of having a forum) and to just deal with it..no nobody has to deal with it. We have the right to voice our opinion about this without being downplayed..

There will always be some sort of solution out there...but why do something outside of the game if the devs could simply change it up? What great awesome part of the fight will be lost if they make it so, that you don wipe the whole party? Did not wiping the whole party made it less interesting with Hades and any other cases that they used it?

[Gula]

This is not comparable to a bus!!

FFXIV is a game with a community. The point of a community is to help people who can't keep up, who are in some way disabled. Because that's what a community is all about. You see it everywhere in rl. Adjustments are made to accommodate people who have problems. Deaf people, blind people, people in wheelchairs. This is no different!!

I'm going to guess you've never tanked, because this was a mechanic in Susano. How'd you pass that one? Or did you jump potion and therefore, it was skipped. Also that's not the point of communities. That's your idealism talking. Some, but far from all.

Those adjustments? They're still fitting a majority mold. I could be blind-deaf and unable to read braille. The solution? Learn braille. Not have someone cater further to me while claiming it's for the benefit to everyone else.

The real solution here is to not have it fail everyone. Not further break off a piece of the game for you.

Big edit: lol wait didn't Hades have this too?

How did anyone get past Hades but not be able to do this?

[Lhunuial]

Excuse me? I have been playing since ARR was released. No, I don't tank. It's nervewracking for me. But I heal and I dps. I do have a tank at 80, but I mostly leveled it without having to do any trials for exaxtly that reason. And no, I know how to play my classes, thank you very much. You are being incredibly rude here.

And excuse me, but in real social communities the community does help those who are disabled. My employer has adjusted things for me. Just because you apparently live in a sucky community doesn't mean the rest of the world does. Accessibility is a real actual thing. Square Enix cares about it. They have hired an entire team for it this year.

I would be more than happy if me failing the QTE wouldn't wipe the group. You people who keep defending this QTE are so incredibly heartless and rude, you have no sympathy no empathy. I hope you never have to deal with what I'm going through.
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[redheadturk]

Big edit: lol wait didn't Hades have this too?

How did anyone get past Hades but not be able to do this?

Hades' QTE wasn't as hard and it didn't wipe the whole party if you failed it.

[Lhunuial]

Hades' QTE wasn't as hard and it didn't wipe the whole party if you failed it.

Exactly. This!!!

[Gula]

Excuse me? I have been playing since ARR was released. No, I don't tank. It's nervewracking for me. But I heal and I dps. I do have a tank at 80, but I mostly leveled it without having to do any trials for exaxtly that reason. And no, I know how to play my classes, thank you very much. You are being incredibly rude here.

And excuse me, but in real social communities the community does help those who are disabled. My employer has adjusted things for me. Just because you apparently live in a sucky community doesn't mean the rest of the world does. Accessibility is a real actual thing. Square Enix cares about it. They have hired an entire team for it this year.

I would be more than happy if me failing the QTE wouldn't wipe the group. You people who keep defending this QTE are so incredibly heartless and rude, you have no sympathy no empathy. I hope you never have to deal with what I'm going through.
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Indirect responses again, sure I'll fish through the thread in the event I'm not looking closely for a reply.

Anyway.

You passed Shinryu, Hades, and dealt with tight DPS checks when they actually mattered. I'm not seeing anything here but emotional responses and (golly) even more insults instead of cutting right to the point for something that doesn't gut the game further. It's a simple as not. failing. everyone.

Let's say you die in other trials with QTE's, ok you get rezzed. Nooo biggie. You cannot uphold the responsibility given to you here, I get that. So, let's just take that responsibility away. Problem solved.