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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    The US is an exceedingly diverse place, so don't assume just because you were taught that as a kid it's universal across the US.
    As is the UK and most of Europe (which arguably is much more diverse than the U.S) yet guess who is also complaining that they can't get what they want when they want it? I mean, you can try and refute the country's ever-hungering greed by saying you don't do it, or don't condone it. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Greed runs the Western World and that isn't likely to change.

    I would assume people could be adults and maybe not attack each other for pointless things, yet every day I am disappointed. Your previous comment to Catstab being laughably pitiful. You get called out and instead of taking the defeat, you act as if you're the victim.

    Grow up and maybe, just maybe.. If you stop being the typical pot-stirrer, maybe people would care about what you say instead of point out your flaws and laugh at you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    I put zero words in your mouth and told zero lies.
    No, you put words in my mouth when you edited my quotes to insert your own opinions, and then proceeded to argue against that fabrication as if I had said that, instead of actually addressing what I had said.

    And to be honest Don Quixote, I don't need to read the rest of your post because you have nothing to contribute to this conversation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    As is the UK and most of Europe (which arguably is much more diverse than the U.S) yet guess who is also complaining that they can't get what they want when they want it? I mean, you can try and refute the country's ever-hungering greed by saying you don't do it, or don't condone it. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Greed runs the Western World and that isn't likely to change.
    Capitalism =/= Greed.

    That said, capitalism needs morality otherwise it becomes incredibly destructive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    You get called out and instead of taking the defeat, you act as if you're the victim.
    You can't defeat someone by lying about what they have said, as the only person that was "defeated" there was Castab when they fell on their own sword with their hypocrisy.

    Edit:

    Here's what Castab inserted that showed him to be an incredibly dishonest person:

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    Last edited by Almagnus1; 08-27-2020 at 05:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Here's what Castab inserted that showed him to be an incredibly dishonest person:

    Well that was a pretty low thing to do. Yikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Well that was a pretty low thing to do. Yikes.
    But speaking on behalf of Japan and their people to elevate yourself in a conversation on assumptions you got from a few pokemon games and a youtube video wasn't low at all. Yikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Well that was a pretty low thing to do. Yikes.
    And now that they've been caught with their hand in the cookie jar, there's no point in talking with them further because it's clear that all they want to do is demonize someone that thinks differently from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    And now that they've been caught with their hand in the cookie jar, there's no point in talking with them further because it's clear that all they want to do is demonize someone that thinks differently from there.
    You've lost your last leg to stand on in this debate, so you've resorted to insults. Ignore me all you want, but you directly contradicted yourself and I proved it. This thread is dead, yet here we all are, practicing our necromancy.

    Maybe that could be a new ff14 class, next expansion? We did get one in the new 4 man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    You've lost your last leg to stand on in this debate, so you've resorted to insults. Ignore me all you want, but you directly contradicted yourself and I proved it. This thread is dead, yet here we all are, practicing our necromancy.

    Maybe that could be a new ff14 class, next expansion? We did get one in the new 4 man.
    What do you guys think? They could go about it a few different ways.

    1) Sort of a ranged form of Dark Knight, that pulls aggro with shadow bolts and replenishes themselves with life drain abilities and shields.
    2) A healer who drains their own life into allies, and then drains from the boss to replenish themselves.
    3) Just another pet class dps, but this would probably be too much like a summoner clone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Here's what Castab inserted that showed him to be an incredibly dishonest person: -> *Show's that Catstab added "[I want your house taken away so I can have it]" to Almagnus's statement regarding why having houses taken away is no big deal*
    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Well that was a pretty low thing to do. Yikes.
    Alright, apparently it's time to explain how brackets work. When a quote you use adds to an earlier statement, or responds to a question, it's common to re-add that content paraphrased within brackets so your audience doesn't have to re-read absolutely everything to understand the quote.

    Example:

    Interviewer: Do you like waffles?
    Subject: I do.
    Published quote: "I do [like waffles]" - Subject

    Here is the text I paraphrased for context.

    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    SE should auto demolish all houses owned by an account except for the one bought first.
    Almagnus says her FC tried very hard to move to 'Kurogane' and deserves a reward for their efforts in the form of a house.
    Almagnus also says it's not a big deal if current house owners get their houses deleted, because those houses aren't rewards.

    I took the last statement of 'the house isn't a reward anyway' and added the context of 'so you should be ok with SE deleting yours so my FC can have it as their reward' which is paraphrased from her previous two statements.

    Therefore, what I did was not dishonest, and it was not low. Thank you for your baseless insults. I hope this lesson in middle school reading comprehension has been enlightening.

    Anyway, it still stands, Almagnus, that you have directly contradicted your own argument.

    You say your FC worked hard and deserves a reward in the form of a house. You also say it would be easier for the homeless players and FCs to get houses if people who have alt-houses lost the houses they worked for. You explain that this is fair because 'houses aren't rewards.'

    Houses cannot simultaneously exist as rewards for your FC's effort, but simple 'items, like a chocobo' for other people. This is the part where every point you've made so far fell apart. Why don't you respond to that logical argument, instead of calling me dishonest. Since, put plainly, that is an incorrect assertion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PewPewPewPewPew View Post
    But speaking on behalf of Japan and their people to elevate yourself in a conversation on assumptions you got from a few pokemon games and a youtube video wasn't low at all. Yikes.
    Yes you're correct. I learned everything about Japanese culture from a Pikachu card. You have found out my secret. Oh no.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    Here is the text I paraphrased for context.
    The context you placed was your personal opinion on what the person was saying. Not that anything I say would ever inspire you to admit that ;D

    EDIT: I am referring to where you essentially accused them of wanting to take away your house so they personally can have it instead.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 08-27-2020 at 07:01 AM.

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