No more QTE please.

[Burado_T]

Imagine saying you shouldn't have to pay extra for heat/air conditioning because you already paid money for a house.

If you can spend some cash on video games, you should (or at least I think) reasonably be ok with forking over a few extra dollars to make the experience better for yourself. I own the game on PC, but I like playing controller. Ergo, I purchased a real Microsoft controller for its weight and how it feels in my hands versus a cheaper, general controller. You buy salt and sugar for food to give it the flavor you want regardless of what pre-made meal you purchase from the store. You buy in soles to make shoes fit more comfortably despite spending money on the shoe. The list goes on but the point is the same. You are standing in the rain here, letting yourself get wet when buying an umbrella is not the end of the world. And many places offer return services. Did you consider finding a store that allows full refund returns? I know I have ordered packages that come with return stickers.

And if money is that much of a concern, then do you honestly think subscribing to an mmo is the right choice?

An excellent counterexample, you are renting a business premises, and, let's say, the price changes within reasonable limits over the years, and then they tell you sharply that the value of real estate has increased, and you pay 4 times more. Or everything was fine with you, and the car tax was taken into account in expenses, but for some reason the tax was raised to an unbearable level. Or you were valuable in the company and you were kicked out because they thought the new employee was better than you and you were fired. This is the same stab in the back, and let's not go into other people's finances, not knowing either the country of this person, or his position in general. This is disrespectful.
And we will keep the dialogue within the game, without going to life examples and the market outside the game.

[Burado_T]

Imagine saying you shouldn't have to pay extra for heat/air conditioning because you already paid money for a house.

If you can spend some cash on video games, you should (or at least I think) reasonably be ok with forking over a few extra dollars to make the experience better for yourself. I own the game on PC, but I like playing controller. Ergo, I purchased a real Microsoft controller for its weight and how it feels in my hands versus a cheaper, general controller. You buy salt and sugar for food to give it the flavor you want regardless of what pre-made meal you purchase from the store. You buy in soles to make shoes fit more comfortably despite spending money on the shoe. The list goes on but the point is the same. You are standing in the rain here, letting yourself get wet when buying an umbrella is not the end of the world. And many places offer return services. Did you consider finding a store that allows full refund returns? I know I have ordered packages that come with return stickers.

And if money is that much of a concern, then do you honestly think subscribing to an mmo is the right choice?

And I repeat, I play with the ARR. SE have been turning the game into a casual game for many years. And let's then weed out all the casuals so that it was as before and ask to remove the unsynchronization. Then it will be fair. Or, if you don't have enough complexity, there are extremes, savages, ultimate and unreal mode's for you.

[Krotoan]

Imagine saying you shouldn't have to pay extra for heat/air conditioning because you already paid money for a house.

If you can spend some cash on video games, you should (or at least I think) reasonably be ok with forking over a few extra dollars to make the experience better for yourself. I own the game on PC, but I like playing controller. Ergo, I purchased a real Microsoft controller for its weight and how it feels in my hands versus a cheaper, general controller. You buy salt and sugar for food to give it the flavor you want regardless of what pre-made meal you purchase from the store. You buy in soles to make shoes fit more comfortably despite spending money on the shoe. The list goes on but the point is the same. You are standing in the rain here, letting yourself get wet when buying an umbrella is not the end of the world. And many places offer return services. Did you consider finding a store that allows full refund returns? I know I have ordered packages that come with return stickers.

And if money is that much of a concern, then do you honestly think subscribing to an mmo is the right choice?

.. you spent money.. why isn't spending MORE money to pass one weirdly out of place and heavily weighted QTE OK?

Instead of .. i dunno.. NOT putting it in? or maybe NOT making it all or nothing?

[Burado_T]

I'd like to actually hear from someone with a physical disability directly related to failure of this trial rather than having us theorycrafting about what sorts of problems they have. So far there's been a few people who have mentioned they have physical pain due to this, but I haven't seen their response regarding a (fairly cheap) tool that would help immensely. For ANY game, not just FFXIV.

You may have ignored my message, but I will ask a new question, why do you need to deal with other people's finances, it is not expensive for you or not expensive in your country. Somewhere not, for others not. And the game has its own background, as it was simplified, we do not leave the framework of the game. If a game that has been redesigned for a casual audience requires third-party costs for casual content, then the game is poorly designed.

[Gula]

An excellent counterexample, you are renting a business premises, and, let's say, the price changes within reasonable limits over the years, and then they tell you sharply that the value of real estate has increased, and you pay 4 times more. Or everything was fine with you, and the car tax was taken into account in expenses, but for some reason the tax was raised to an unbearable level. Or you were valuable in the company and you were kicked out because they thought the new employee was better than you and you were fired. This is the same stab in the back, and let's not go into other people's finances, not knowing either the country of this person, or his position in general. This is disrespectful.
And we will keep the dialogue within the game, without going to life examples and the market outside the game.

I do not understand your point here. I really don't. Disabled people buy walkers and have insurance assisted wheel chairs among other things. Why is considering trying out a $30 turbo controller disrespectful?

This is extremely strange. The developers didn't care about accessibility, so people advice to buy controllers or use third-party programs, risking getting banned. What if I can't use the controller? What's next? Will you tell me not to play one of my favorite games? By the way, let me remind you that the waste of someone's money is not something that should be discussed on the forums. However, what else can I expect from a person who writes strange comments, hiding behind a dummy profile.

1. wha? Why do you care so much about who my main is? Do you want to stalk me or something?
2. Buying a controller to help you better enjoy a game isn't against the rules so again, wha?

.. you spent money.. why isn't spending MORE money to pass one weirdly out of place and heavily weighted QTE OK?

Instead of .. i dunno.. NOT putting it in? or maybe NOT making it all or nothing?

So what about other games then? You're coming off as though you're speaking at the behest of people who will only play XIV- ever, and have disabilities and thus never ever run into QTE's outside of XIV. The icing on this confounding cake being you want to remove something the majority are fine with for a minority. Because that's my point and what my response pertains to. Buying peripherals which is normal for the physically challenged. If this single instance of mash or fail is stressing you and others out so much, then gosh dang it's a good thing you only need to experience it once unless you're running trial roulette at 80.

All you need is a chin to rotate on a keyboard to pass. Or an elbow, or a foot.

It's not worth canceling it for everyone else. But by some chance you encounter button mashing in other games, provided you play other games, then why not purchase one?

[RajNish]

1. wha? Why do you care so much about who my main is? Do you want to stalk me or something?

Nope. I just don't understand why you hide behind a fake character if you want to say something important? What are you afraid of?

2. Buying a controller to help you better enjoy a game isn't against the rules so again, wha?

I have a problem with my left hand, the controller won't help me. The use of third-party software is fraught with a ban. Didn't you know?

[Krotoan]

So what about other games then? You're coming off as though you're speaking at the behest of people who will only play XIV- ever, and have disabilities and thus never ever run into QTE's outside of XIV. The icing on this confounding cake being you want to remove something the majority are fine with for a minority. Because that's my point and what my response pertains to. Buying peripherals which is normal for the physically challenged. If this single instance of mash or fail is stressing you and others out so much, then gosh dang it's a good thing you only need to experience it once unless you're running trial roulette at 80.

All you need is a chin to rotate on a keyboard to pass. Or an elbow, or a foot.

It's not worth canceling it for everyone else. But by some chance you encounter button mashing in other games, provided you play other games, then why not purchase one?

Because this games main story was accessible for nigh on 10 years without that controller.

Generally that person would NOT buy other games that required quick repetitive button presses BECAUSE they understand their limitation.

On the flip side why are YOU so invested in keeping this "once in a playthrough" , sorry excuse for a challenge in the game as is? If it's so very trivial then why is it a problem to either remove the all or nothing req or maybe tone it down?

[Burado_T]

I do not understand your point here. I really don't. Disabled people buy walkers and have insurance assisted wheel chairs among other things. Why is considering trying out a $30 turbo controller disrespectful?



1. wha? Why do you care so much about who my main is? Do you want to stalk me or something?
2. Buying a controller to help you better enjoy a game isn't against the rules so again, wha?



So what about other games then? You're coming off as though you're speaking at the behest of people who will only play XIV- ever, and have disabilities and thus never ever run into QTE's outside of XIV. The icing on this confounding cake being you want to remove something the majority are fine with for a minority. Because that's my point and what my response pertains to. Buying peripherals which is normal for the physically challenged. If this single instance of mash or fail is stressing you and others out so much, then gosh dang it's a good thing you only need to experience it once unless you're running trial roulette at 80.

All you need is a chin to rotate on a keyboard to pass. Or an elbow, or a foot.

It's not worth canceling it for everyone else. But by some chance you encounter button mashing in other games, provided you play other games, then why not purchase one?

It’s disrespectful to tell people who and where determines their finances, they can handle it without you. And third-party costs only undermine the questionable quality of the game.

[RajNish]

Generally that person would NOT buy other games that required quick repetitive button presses BECAUSE they understand their limitation.

Exactly this. By the way. Have you noticed that this person, hiding behind a fake account, asks the same questions, ignoring the answers completely? I think he has fun inviting us to play with our noses, chins and legs over and over again. And this is completely unlike a normal discussion.

[TheGrimace]

I like ATEs, I just hate the idea of everyone failing a duty because one person fails. I also dislike the ATE in the current new trial, because it goes for something like 13 seconds.

Just keep the ATEs manageable. That's all I ask.