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    Doctor_Minime's Avatar
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    Doctor Bunbun
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeulGDarian View Post
    im pretty sure scathe is there in case you ever lose enochian, something that you shouldnt ever do. Besides that maybe for prior to enochian levels. idk dude its not like making scathe better will just make it more usable the rotation is already fluid enough and has everything it needs especially now with xenoglossy letting you be even more mobile.
    Im of the philosophy that if something performs as intended you dont need to overupgrade it nor remove it. A fridge is nice, do i want it to have tv and internet functions no not really.
    Right now scathe is completely useless end game. It is a dps loss to even hit it while moving (assuming your movement is minimal). I'm not looking to add scathe to the rotation, but my suggestion is to provide better ways of movement during fights (while maintaining GCD uptime) as currently we're relying on having triple/swiftcast up or procs and it's clunky at best.
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    Adrila Messor
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor_Minime View Post
    Right now scathe is completely useless end game. It is a dps loss to even hit it while moving (assuming your movement is minimal). I'm not looking to add scathe to the rotation, but my suggestion is to provide better ways of movement during fights (while maintaining GCD uptime) as currently we're relying on having triple/swiftcast up or procs and it's clunky at best.
    I think we're slowly moving towards more proc usage and more ways to reliably get procs. Right now, Sharpcast got a cooldown reduction of 30sec, this doesn't seem like much, but it's basically a free firestarter proc every fire rotation, which is a really good movement tool as well as a fire timer reset.

    If anything, Scathe should see a bigger increase in its proc chance for double damage, as right now it's low enough to not warrant any use of it, but you shouldn't touch the spell more. Scathe is basically here for peoples who still learns a fight or the job. It's a mean to not get completely behind. It's bad if you use it, but it's worse if you don't use anything. It's more of a "catch-up" tool than anything, and I like it that way. It's like the small wheels on the side of a kid's bicycle. It's neat for learning, but once you know how to ride, you will not miss them at all.

    If anything, for movement purpose I think that allowing for instant F3/B3 when swapping polarity is a way better solution in the long run than Scathe buffs.
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    Still not sure if Samurai's a tank who forgot that aggro was a thing or a dps that's way too much into it.

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    PyurBlue's Avatar
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    Saphir Amariyo
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    Thaumaturge Lv 40
    I can understand wanting some more use for Scathe, but BLM already has a lot of movement options. Adding more would almost turn it into a physical ranged class that could move freely all the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliadil View Post
    If anything, for movement purpose I think that allowing for instant F3/B3 when swapping polarity is a way better solution in the long run than Scathe buffs.
    This actually makes Enochian slightly tighter because the AF/UI timer would begin earlier in the GCD. Not really a huge issue, but I'm fine with the 3 spells having a short cast time.
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