BLM - Scathe adjustment suggestion

[wereotter]

Most jobs have skills that they retain at level 80 that lost their usefulness long before that. Scathe is just another of those that while you've obtained better tools, there's no real skill that can outright replace it and have it still make sense in the same way as something like upgrading Thunder to Thunder 3.

Other examples are things such as Fists of Earth becomes entirely useless on monk once you obtain Fists of Fire. Tranpose in your own kit loses a lot of its value once you have Fire 3 and Blizzard 3 and then looses it entirely once you have Umbral Soul. Ninja has no use these days for Fuma Shuriken, Summoner has very little use for Ruin 2.

These skills fill a gap that you might need/want in your kit at lower levels, that's all they're there for. Maybe they'll be culled in a future expansion, otherwise you can just not place them on your bar once they no longer serve a purpose and forget they exist.

[Beddict]

Tranpose in your own kit loses a lot of its value once you have Fire 3 and Blizzard 3 and then looses it entirely once you have Umbral Soul.

Umbral Soul can only be used under the effects of Umbral Ice. If you end combat with a Fire skill you still need Transpose to switch over which does make it useful all the way through to 80. If a boss is going to disappear then I'm going to want hit them with a Despair before they go, I can Transpose and Umbral Soul when I'm not doing anything.

[wereotter]

Umbral Soul can only be used under the effects of Umbral Ice. If you end combat with a Fire skill you still need Transpose to switch over which does make it useful all the way through to 80. If a boss is going to disappear then I'm going to want hit them with a Despair before they go, I can Transpose and Umbral Soul when I'm not doing anything.

I don't play much black mage, so thank you for the information. Though the fact remains that the skill wains in usefulness at higher levels, and there are still several skills on other jobs that, like Scathe, have no use by the time you're at level 80, which was my point. It's there to serve a purpose a lower levels, and that purpose gets over shadowed by better skills as you level, but those skills don't replace Scathe because they're not the same kind. Like they couldn't effectively replace Scathe with Sharpcast or Triplecast

[waifugenerator]

I only use Scathe in pre-lv44 content as a way to weave transpose cos I REFUSEEEEE to go straight from f1 to transpose it feels wrong in a single target rotation

[Doctor_Minime]

I just want something that's not "stop casting and move, lose most of a gcd, then f4 again". Even if it's mostly DPS neutral. It's not OP to ask for QOL changes ya know

[Eliadil]

I just want something that's not "stop casting and move, lose most of a gcd, then f4 again". Even if it's mostly DPS neutral. It's not OP to ask for QOL changes ya know

This reason is fine, for sure. And it's also why Sharpcast exists, as well as Pyro and Thunder procs. You can get a pyro proc every time you enter your fire phase, which is plenty enough to get the mobility you need for most fights, don't worry. Try playing a bit around it, you'll see that you actually have an enormous amount of mobility just because of this skill alone.

[Miminming]

if it's dps neutral it's pretty much a buff because you can now just braindead it why playing wrongly... ad get same dps

i don't mind any buff but still should be significantly low, i don't want to the appear of scathe mage...

[Duskane]

could just combine Scathe and Thunder

[Eliadil]

could just combine Scathe and Thunder

Making Scathe refresh Thunder would be interesting, but you'd have to make sure that a thunder proc would still be a better option out of the two, for sure.

[waifugenerator]

Just delete scathe we have so many mobility tools at this point that we almost don't really have any trade off for our absurdly high DPS — bar having no utility