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  1. #12481
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    Fukuro's Avatar
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    Oneiron Fuchs
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 90
    Viera fanart which i personally really like!


    By Mossy's Mess
    (https://mossygator.tumblr.com/post/1...ale-viera-when)



    By @dorupu1707
    (https://twitter.com/dorupu1707/statu...42268375830529)
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  2. #12482
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    SomeRandomHuman's Avatar
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    Tabi Fox
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    As far as Male Viera ears are concerned I hope they don't get "bent" ears. The less hats/helmets issues we can avoid the better. Instead I would prefer if they got FFXII's Viera ears as an option.
    I love lop/bent ears, but dear god did they mess them up in this game. I'd second this.
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  3. #12483
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    AbyssalPearl's Avatar
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    Belnades Riveria
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    Diabolos
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    Bard Lv 80
    I agree that both the Viera and Hrothgar/Ronso shouldn't be gender locked, sadly I didn't play the game during the time Roe's and Miqo's were gender locked but I can understand how players would react if they couldn't play the opposite sex. To use the race lore as some form of excuse to not make the opposite sex is downright wrong - they should know better to repeat the same mistake or else they'll end up with angry players from 1.0 and up. If Square knew making two new races would take a lot of time and resources (along with two new classes) then what they could have done is just work on one race with both sexes, that way they have more time on fitting the gear for it AND have time to work on the two classes. Actually now that I think about it, what Square could have also done is make the Garleans as a playable race, and yes I know that seems pointless and I'm sure others will say "No that's not possible because of the story/lore or they are the bad guys ". But I think that would have been in my opinion a better option for 5.0. I mean if you really think about it the devs could use the Hyur's models and just alter it so it can be a Garlean - it won't take much time nor resources to make sure the gear fits them (that and make some hairstyles as well). I just wanted to put my two cents in but also think that the devs should remove the gender lock for Viera and Hrothgar race.
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    Last edited by AbyssalPearl; 08-25-2020 at 03:01 AM.

  4. #12484
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Loud Jungle
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Agreed, if Yoshida's fixation with hrothgar was that strong then hey you do you Yoshida. I think most people would respect a decision like that to this half assed measure.

    One of their 1.0 "lessons learned" statements was:
    • Do not approach projects as something you can always patch later

    If I remember correctly that approach to "we can always patch this bad decision later" was what created the world of warcraft exodus. People get fed up.
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    Last edited by Amnmaat; 08-25-2020 at 03:55 AM.

  5. #12485
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    MikkoAkure's Avatar
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    Midi Ajihri
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbyssalPearl View Post
    snip.
    The lore is not what is stopping people from being able to play the unplayable genders. The lore is used as an in-game explanation. We don't have them because the devs made a conscious decision to release two limited races because people wanted viera and they wanted a beast race, and there was only dev resources for one. Looking back at it now, I'm sure that it must have come up in some meeting somewhere that there's negative reaction due to this, but they can't go back and change it now and delete one of them for the sake of a completed other.

    Garleans are a different story that would be way too complex to introduce. First off, Garleans the main bad guys that everyone in every single place we go to is either scared of or wants to kill. It would take a lot of willing disbelief to allow a WoL Garlean to be OK to everyone, especially before you become the WoL. Secondly, in the lore they have no capability to use aether at all, and every single class in the game from machinists to mages to culinarians use aether. Though this is just background lore and can be rewritten, it is much more hardcoded into the game than viera or hrothgar lore and the fact they can't use aether is ultimately responsible for a lot of what happens in the story and why they are the way they are. Thirdly, there is no Garlean race according to the game models. Except for notable exceptions, who in-universe are notable exceptions, pure-blooded Garleans in-game are either elezen or midlander hyur bodies with a unique face if they're important, or an existing face with a 3rd eye slapped on if they're not. A new Garlean race would fix the disconnect between Garlean body shapes and sizes being all over the place, but I don't see them going back and changing that. And lastly, there is nothing to be gained from having a Garlean race. Unless you RP, there is no difference except they can't use aether and they have a 3rd eye. Not really worth a whole race addition.
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  6. #12486
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    Fenrir Falkreath
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 80
    First post on the forums but I really wanted to pledge my support! I started playing FFXIV during last year's starlight celebration and fell in love with the game! I played a Lalafell for the majority of my time and more recently switched to Miqo'te. Though, if there had been a male Viera option I would have pounced at the opportunity to fantasia into one of them instead! Quite a few members of my FC who play as Miqo'te or Au'ra males have also expressed wanting to play as male Viera. Fingers forever crossed that we might see them one day in the future, however far off it may be!
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  7. #12487
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    Ayuh'ra Bajhiri
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    Mateus
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    Dancer Lv 90
    one thing I noticed in a lot of fan art is male viera have human faces. Ideally I'd like them to have the slightly upturned noses and "overbite" that the females have.

    As depicted here



    and also visible on Fran, the OG Viera who makes it clear that Viera are not "humans with bunny ears".

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  8. #12488
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    Sockette Outlet
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    I hope that they will maybe awnser it on the 15th, but I have little expectations for any QnA, since I think its gonna be revealed during the first fan fest of 6.0 in the trailer, and officially confirmed playable on the last/ second one
    Not only do I wanna see a male viera but I want to see him tip broad-brimmed hat he wears on his head as well.
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  9. #12489
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    On the bright side, it's good they didn't 'sacrifice' male Viera and went for another race altogether to fill the furry quota, I guess even they know the 'monster male sexy female' trope isn't exactly welcomed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

  10. #12490
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    Expired Cow-milk
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayuhra View Post
    one thing I noticed in a lot of fan art is male viera have human faces. Ideally I'd like them to have the slightly upturned noses and "overbite" that the females have.

    As depicted here



    and also visible on Fran, the OG Viera who makes it clear that Viera are not "humans with bunny ears".


    I'm pretty sure the upturned noses and overbites is just an art style thing for Final Fantasy characters in general. Hyurs already have similar features and people and real life do have up turned noses and overbites.

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