New Races

[Shougun]

People that do Ultimate already had savage and extreme
Just like people who like hrothgar had Roegadyn and to a smaller extent Miqo'te

Ultimate != savage ; savage is closer to normal than it is to ultimate.

Roe != beast race ; maybe Galka would have 'sort of' counted, like mithra, but Roe and miqote obviously lost some of their more weird features from FFXI. Simply having a single point of asset does not make one a beast race, "oh I'm big" is not a beast race, neither is a human with cat ears. Lion/animal face (the feature that obviously made the race a pain to take to the barber shop, and most key to making it not a human with ears), fur, tail, now that is clearly a beast race- enter Hrothgar.

[Amnmaat]

Ultimate != savage ; savage is closer to normal than it is to ultimate.

Roe != beast race ; maybe Galka would have 'sort of' counted, like mithra, but Roe and miqote obviously lost some of their more weird features from FFXI. Simply having a single point of asset does not make one a beast race, "oh I'm big" is not a beast race, neither is a human with cat ears. Lion/animal face (the feature that obviously made the race a pain to take to the barber shop, and most key to making it not a human with ears), fur, tail, now that is clearly a beast race- enter Hrothgar.

i disagree, the same people that do extremes and savage are the same ones that do ultimate. Maybe not in crystal but definitely in aether.
Roe (and to a lesser extent Miqo'te = what most current hrothgar players used to be. Backed up by data and sources of information; as well as aesthetically, but this time we will never agree upon since it's subjective. However, the data I brought up of the Roegadyn to hrothgar flight is factual, to the point where there are more male hrothgar now than there are male Roegadyn.