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  1. #12471
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    MikkoAkure's Avatar
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    Midi Ajihri
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    my insinuation was more that there was no established lore for the viera on the source so that there's no lore issues with male viera being made playable. maybe if we were on norvrandt, sure, but on the source?
    The Dramaturge on the airship in Kugane has had all the Source's viera lore since Stormblood and it's the same as Ivalice viera lore. He's also been to Dalmasca, which viera make up 5% of the population of the Kingdom, and has never seen a male viera.
    I saw all manner of wondrous creatures, not once did I lay mine eyes upon a male Viera, nor did I hear of one living in the city. They simply do not exist to us.
    We probably have more lore on Source viera than we do on the viis.
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    could not attach image. big saddo!

  3. #12472
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    grinkdaboy's Avatar
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    Viktor Fontaine
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    The Dramaturge on the airship in Kugane has had all the Source's viera lore since Stormblood and it's the same as Ivalice viera lore. He's also been to Dalmasca, which viera make up 5% of the population of the Kingdom, and has never seen a male viera.


    We probably have more lore on Source viera than we do on the viis.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcCu5ZcZnoU

    still i feel the lore justification is flimsy. they describe female viera following similar cultural traditions (reclusive, shunning contact) but it's okay for a female viera to choose to reject tradition and not want that lifestyle for themselves and not okay for a male viera to also reject tradition and also choose not to want the sort of lifestyle they have for themselves because...?
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    Last edited by grinkdaboy; 08-24-2020 at 07:21 AM.

  4. #12473
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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcCu5ZcZnoU

    still i feel the lore justification is flimsy. they describe female viera following similar cultural traditions (reclusive, shunning contact) but it's okay for a female viera to choose to reject tradition and not want that lifestyle for themselves and not okay for a male viera to also reject tradition and also choose not to want the sort of lifestyle they have for themselves because...?
    Welp, this conversation is back XD

    It has nothing to do with it "being ok" then just the Females decided at one point they wanted to leave the forest and join the outside world. Going against their traditions, and being punished by being rejected by their own people and the Forest itself (Or more they lose "the voice" which the Viera that follow their traditions can hear)
    The Males I think are also very different from the Females in where they arn't exactly sociable, and I think take their duty and tradition much more seriously then the Females. They dont even interact with their own females outside of the "Reproduction Period"

    So really, just because the Girls do it, doesn't mean In-turn the Males will just do it.
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  5. #12474
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    Those are really nice artwork of male viera!





    Found them at pinterest, so they were saved on someone's folder without the credits. If anyone get to know the artist...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbs View Post
    (sip)

    The second one is by Yutaka Toguchi
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    Last edited by AxelBranford; 08-25-2020 at 06:40 AM.

  6. #12475
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbs View Post
    Thank you for sharing this all in one spot! Really handy actually; its a shame you can pin individual replies to a thread.
    No problem. I wish I could pin it, too. Editing the OP is an option, but I would prefer to leave the OP untouched - or at the very least, have the last edited date as close to the creation date as I possibly can to make it seem consistent. I did this with the original viera thread, and I very much regret editing this thread when I did.

    Instead, I'll leave a link to that particular post in my signature for easy access and see how that works out.

    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    i think male viera could fix male elezen like female viera fixed female elezen.
    The interviews I have compiled suggest male viera would sort of be a mix between miqo'te and elezen, so this is probable. If the words of Matsuno are anything to go by, we know that they are pretty light in terms of weight and have no fat. From what Yoshi P said, they are slim. Since Yoshi P said they were thinking about making it similar to miqo'te's face, their faces might look more on the bishounen side. Maybe it will even have omega, innocence, or warrior of light vibes to it. However, I don't doubt at least one face option will be more gruff.
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  7. #12476
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    As far as Male Viera ears are concerned I hope they don't get "bent" ears. The less hats/helmets issues we can avoid the better. Instead I would prefer if they got FFXII's Viera ears as an option.
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  8. #12477
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    As far as Male Viera ears are concerned I hope they don't get "bent" ears. The less hats/helmets issues we can avoid the better. Instead I would prefer if they got FFXII's Viera ears as an option.
    I'm not a fan of the bent ears myself, but they will most likely get the same ear options as the female viera.
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  9. #12478
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxelBranford View Post
    Found them at pinterest, so they were saved on someone's folder without the credits. If anyone get to know the artist...
    I wouldn't recommend pinterest for finding art, the artist almost never gets credited. If you absolutely want to share uncredited art, please try using reverse google image search to find the artist

    The first pic is unfortunately a little hard to find. The original artist may have privated a twitter page where it was sourced.

    The second one is by Yutaka Toguchi
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  10. #12479
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    This has a new visual take on the male viera that's pretty interesting:

    https://isei-silva.tumblr.com/post/1...ttle-of-vieras

    Link is work safe.
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  11. #12480
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    Oneiron Fuchs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    The interviews I have compiled suggest male viera would sort of be a mix between miqo'te and elezen, so this is probable. If the words of Matsuno are anything to go by, we know that they are pretty light in terms of weight and have no fat. From what Yoshi P said, they are slim. Since Yoshi P said they were thinking about making it similar to miqo'te's face, their faces might look more on the bishounen side. Maybe it will even have omega, innocence, or warrior of light vibes to it. However, I don't doubt at least one face option will be more gruff.
    so basically a better proportioned male elezen i see (just like the female viera, same model to elezen, just better proportioned and (imo) better/more handsome face options)
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    Last edited by Fukuro; 08-24-2020 at 06:37 PM.

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