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  1. #12461
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    I'll be tempering my expectations to a greater extent this time around. If the missing genders are added and/or we get enhanced character customisation? Great! If neither element is added then it'll just cement this game as something for me to play until a more promising MMO piques my curiosity.
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  2. #12462
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    it'll just cement this game as something for me to play until a more promising MMO piques my curiosity.
    I mean arn't we all pretty much already doing this?
    Even if Male Viera is put in the game, its not like you wouldn't drop this if a more interesting game came around.
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  3. #12463
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    I mean arn't we all pretty much already doing this?
    Even if Male Viera is put in the game, its not like you wouldn't drop this if a more interesting game came around.
    I don't typically just flit between MMO's as they catch my attention. I see them as long term investments, so I don't invest in them lightly. I'm still enjoying FFXIV for the most part...though various factors as of Stormblood and beyond have definitely dampened my enthusiasm somewhat. Not enough to make me quit, but enough to reconsider my level of enthusiasm. Adding male viera would go a long way towards restoring my interest and faith in the game. I'm just not going to get overly excited about the possibility of it happening.
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  4. #12464
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    I've shared some of these sources before, but I wanted to compile it into one post for people's viewing pleasure.

    Thank you for sharing this all in one spot! Really handy actually; its a shame you can pin individual replies to a thread.
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  5. #12465
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'll be tempering my expectations to a greater extent this time around. If the missing genders are added and/or we get enhanced character customisation? Great! If neither element is added then it'll just cement this game as something for me to play until a more promising MMO piques my curiosity.
    This is my take on the situation as well; the same way the World of warcraft exodus happened, I can see myself doing the same when it comes to XIV if the next expansion is just pure stagnation.

    If we get a character creator upgrade in some form if we don't get the missing genders? Ok, that'll keep me around. But no missing gender and nothing to "replace" the fact that they're not working on missing genders? When it's a double negative like that it will make me consider diving right into PSO2 New Genesis. Big open world with a lot to do at end game, and upgraded graphics?

    They can gamble not adding the missing genders but they better expect people to start asking "that's it? we're just getting 2 new jobs and the usual?" Stagnation is a very real thing; you can see this in other iterative products such as cellphones; people don't just want the same phone with a new name, they want new features, specially those that have been heavily requested.

    I don't know about you all but Stormblood was the first "crack" when it comes to that stagnation that was becoming apparent. The fanfests for it were boring because it basically brought nothing new (save one or two minor things). This next expansion runs the same risk of making people lose interest. I'm one of those people don't actually mind if we don't get male Viera, I just don't like the idea that we wouldn't get more glamours, hairstyles, or more of something in its place.
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    Last edited by Amnmaat; 08-23-2020 at 07:44 PM.

  6. #12466
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbs View Post
    Thank you for sharing this all in one spot! Really handy actually; its a shame you can pin individual replies to a thread.
    The OP could always be updated with stuff like that.
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  7. #12467
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    Viktor Fontaine
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    i think male viera could fix male elezen like female viera fixed female elezen. decently proportioned head, no giraffe neck. just look at aymeric, they did that for him and then did not see fit to bestow these improvements to the lower-born plebian player elezen. sad!

    furthermore i had a thought about a week ago; the thought being that they really go out of their way to introduce and expand upon viera culture...on Norvrandt. however, during one of the fanfests where they were describing the 1st, they go out of their way to explain how wildly divergent the cultures of the people on the 1st shifted from those on the source. please correct me if i'm wrong, but, do they ever expand upon viera culture on the source? they emphasize the split between the males and females in norvrandt, but, is this ever touched upon in the source?
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  8. #12468
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Viis in the first have no culture.
    Their culture is "ronka," which in truthfulness is a Ronso/hrothgar civilization.

    As for Viera in the source? We haven't been there yet so all we know is both male Rava and Veena protect the jungle/forest and the females nurture it. Beyond that there's no lore to their culture within the jungle/forest. The hope is that they actually have some culture to them, unlike the Viis.
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  9. #12469
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    Viktor Fontaine
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    my insinuation was more that there was no established lore for the viera on the source so that there's no lore issues with male viera being made playable. maybe if we were on norvrandt, sure, but on the source?
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  10. #12470
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
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    It's probably going to be a rehash of Ivalice Viera lore
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