Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
Pretty terrible examples honestly. None of those games you listed have anything remotely resembling strict enrage/DPS checks and that is why parsing is a thing in FFXIV. Wanna get rid of parsing? Then get rid of enrage timers and DPS checks. But that would basically trivialize everything so what would even be the point anymore?

Even then honestly you'd still have people wanting to do speedkills and those people will want parsers to help with their optimization so that might not even work.
Yet that's not what it's used for, and that's the main issue. The very fact that parsers and parse websites for FFXIV involuntarily parse others proves that. And games that do fully permit you to treat others like garbage over their parses like WoW have miserable communities with parties that constantly fall apart and despite the widespread use of it are still absolutely packed with horrible players, more so because they refuse to do mechanics if it means sacrificing 1% on a parse.

If you solely wanted it for your own use, and for the use of other like minded parsers, you would only need to parse yourself. If a dps check is 1000, you only need to check your own dps is 1000 and that of your premade who has all agreed to use it.

But again- that's not how the parsing system works, the website only lets you opt out but that means the vast majority of players who have no interest in being part of the parsing community, who often wouldn't even know about the website, are forced into it regardless. The thing is, it's never 'enough' for the parsing community to use this for self improvement and clearing premade content- if it were fflogs would purely be an opt in website solely used and solely with information on players who want to use it for self improvement. The reality is- most players don't care about it one way or another, at least until their sole experience with it is always some toxic player using it as an excuse to insult them, at which point of course people will hate it, and of course SE won't support it since it's been proven every single time that it breeds toxicity.

And despite this SE still lets you guys parse, they still let you use these tools, you guys have literally nothing to complain about if you genuinely want to use it for self improvement as you keep saying. Yet still this topic keeps coming up because SE isn't willing to let parsers openly name and shame or treat others like garbage- because that's really what this is about, SE is letting you use it in a non-toxic way, but people want to use it in a toxic way and are mad SE won't let you. If you truly, genuinely wanted to parse solely for non toxic reasons- well grats mate, you've won, you already have that, no reason for this to constantly be constantly complained about.