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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvastreak View Post
    And as for being on an rp server? Spriggan is in no way an rp server.
    No one said it was. I was explaining my opinion that the "one FC house per account" rule likely was discontinued chiefly to benefit roleplaying players on roleplaying servers. I didn't mean to confuse you, I do apologize.

    SE wants people to play their game within the rules. Why would they allow 8 FCs houses per account if they didn't want you to do it?

    Is it fair? Yes, because anyone can do it if they invest the money and time. Is it what's best for the community? No, it's rather skewed towards the player - that said, it's only possible on servers without much of a community (read: Spriggan). Nothing that is within the rules can accurately be described as "not right."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post

    Is it fair? Yes, because anyone can do it if they invest the money and time.
    You realize you're assuming everyone has the money or time to drop upwards of £100 on a sub every month, which is inherently unfair and also incredibly incorrect and blinkered.
    Some people are also on the basic rather than full sub wherein they can only have one character per server because they can't afford to pay any more than that per month, but still want to play and own housing.

    So no, it is still not fair.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvastreak View Post
    ...you're assuming everyone has the money or time... which is inherently unfair and also incredibly incorrect...
    Some people... can't afford... to play

    So no, it is still not fair.
    More money and more time being dedicated gets you further faster in absolutely everything in life. If you work out for six hours on six days of the week, you'll gain faster than someone working out for 15 minutes every other day. If you spend 60 thousand dollars on a car, it's going to be a better driving experience than one I bought out of my neighbors driveway for 2,000.

    Saying "Getting more for your time invested isn't fair, because not everyone chooses to dedicate the same amount of time" is clueless. Of course not everyone has the same dedication. Some people put more into the game, and those people who are more dedicated and more resourceful will enjoy more rewards. And that is indeed fair.
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    Last edited by Catstab; 08-23-2020 at 03:17 AM. Reason: trimmed quote so it's not doubling up her entire post

  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    So show the newly opened wards some love and fill them up organically, rather than letting them rot for a month or three until someone gets inspired to make something out of the empty space by themselves.
    You and I both know this isn't going to happen, or rather, it will happen on Cactuar in a matter of hours (if that) but the smaller worlds are going to have some land baron buy a ward shafting the rest of the population.

    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Being selfish is not inherently a bad thing. it js your time and money use it as you see fit just operate with the rules.
    But it becomes a bad thing when being selfish starts to negatively impact others. We don't live in a bubble, you have to think about those around you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    You and I both know this isn't going to happen, or rather, it will happen on Cactuar in a matter of hours (if that) but the smaller worlds are going to have some land baron buy a ward shafting the rest of the population.

    But it becomes a bad thing when being selfish starts to negatively impact others. We don't live in a bubble, you have to think about those around you.
    Someone is always gonna get burned when someone else tries harder. You will never avoid this, its impossible. There are people who care more about certain things in life than you do and are willing to do more for it than you are. You should be happy there are outlets like this existing for people to throw more money at. More money translates into more game development budget. Boohoo that it's not being used on HOUSING, but that money is going in and benefiting the game no matter how much you want to argue that it's at the expense of players suffering in housing. Selfish? Sure okay its selfish. What are you going to say now? More about morals? You are literally just here screaming out loud with the hopes of attracting a crowd large enough to have the upper hand in this discussion. But there will be no resolution for you. Resolution isn't achieved by attacking users. Resolution is only achieved by going after the source, so the people who make this game. Why don't you try contact a GM or something? Why don't you sit down and talk with them and post your chat log to show that you're right, have this argument with them and see what they say. But you'll probably still be dissatisfied with the outcome anyways.

    What you people are arguing is to literally stop people from enjoying the game the way they want. You want an enjoyment cap because other people's enjoyment absolutely disgusts you and the only way to fix it is to tell everyone what is the 'right amount of fun' by your personal standards. Since you cannot dedicate X amount of time and X amount of dollars, nobody else should be allowed to do more than what you can because that would be abuse of the system. Pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvastreak View Post
    You realize you're assuming everyone has the money or time to drop upwards of £100 on a sub every month, which is inherently unfair and also incredibly incorrect and blinkered.
    Some people are also on the basic rather than full sub wherein they can only have one character per server because they can't afford to pay any more than that per month, but still want to play and own housing.

    So no, it is still not fair.
    That is not the communities problem though. It is fair since anyone can do it if they have the time and money. It is a hobby since people have money they can freely spend. This reminds me of when I started war hammer 40k days as a kid I would cry and whine to my dad and the shop owner it was not fun and unfair how my basic army was at a disadvantage.

    They explained to me that it will not always be fair and how some people with money and time will go further for their hobby and that I should not be envious or have a desire to police their fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    You and I both know this isn't going to happen, or rather, it will happen on Cactuar in a matter of hours (if that) but the smaller worlds are going to have some land baron buy a ward shafting the rest of the population.



    But it becomes a bad thing when being selfish starts to negatively impact others. We don't live in a bubble, you have to think about those around you.
    Not really if we are operating within the scope and rules of the game we have no obligation to think of those around us. In a world of finite resources there will always be those that have and those that do not. One can be known disagreement with the status quo and can try to change the system but they should not vilify like some have because they do not share the same value system. Problem is some do not understand the difference between disagreement and Witch hunting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Not really if we are operating within the scope and rules of the game we have no obligation to think of those around us. In a world of finite resources there will always be those that have and those that do not. One can be known disagreement with the status quo and can try to change the system but they should not vilify like some have because they do not share the same value system. Problem is some do not understand the difference between disagreement and Witch hunting.
    But what am I supposed to do with my pitchfork and my angry feelings about something inconsequential?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ramsesh View Post
    But what am I supposed to do with my pitchfork and my angry feelings about something inconsequential?
    pick up knitting or something idk
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    World might burn. Heaven might fall. Candy abides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    pick up knitting or something idk
    ok but can't u see my main class, I don't WEAVE, it's beneath me
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